Adobe Has No Plans To Make Current Products Windows Vista Compatible

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Joe, Mar 21, 2007.

  1. Joe

    Joe Guest

    Joe, Mar 21, 2007
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  2. Joe

    VideoGuru Guest

    As an IT Consultant, I have been working with installs of Vista (all
    versions) on several platforms over the last few months. Here's what I
    have experienced (your mileage may vary) regarding graphics programs
    like Photoshop and various printers (Epson, HP, Cannon etc.):

    1) Vista is a PAIN IN THE %$#$! There are many network, printer status
    monitoring and other process problems that require lots of time and
    patience to get through!

    2) The default network security settings all but disbale network
    connectivity with any "non-Vista" OS's especially if your printer
    servers are win9X - you're screwed!

    3) If you're an average user and not a computer geek stuck with Vista
    on a new computer - you're screwed (unless you're not doing anything
    but watching bubbles on a screensaver)!

    Honestly, if you can, WAIT and see what the negative customer backlash
    forces MS to do (if anything) to deal with the multitude of
    compatibilty issues of third party hardware and software already
    reported to date.

    Only a Monopoly can release Beta software and force you to use it -
    must be nice!!
     
    VideoGuru, Mar 21, 2007
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  3. Joe

    Mike Russell Guest

    Relax - Vista's a new OS, with the usual assortment of glitches, and Adobe
    has and will provide reasonable support for their products on it.
     
    Mike Russell, Mar 22, 2007
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  4. Joe

    VideoGuru Guest

    Ah - dude - I KNOW it's a new OS! I've only been dealing with this
    stuff going back to DOS (probably before you were born!)!

    Secondly, MS has known about most of this crap for over a YEAR before
    they released this version (previously known as Longhorn) to those of
    us who have been following this fiasco!

    Pardon my outrage - but my opionion is hardly rare on this subject -
    try Google Vista before you assume this is just a minor ripple...
     
    VideoGuru, Mar 22, 2007
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  5. Joe

    Mike Russell Guest

    That explains the capital letters.
    Smart is better than old.
    I'd say there's a fiasco following you, like a cloud.
    Or relevant to this newsgroup.
    LOL - Microsoft is the company people love to hate, and lately so is Adobe.
    That's all that's going on.
     
    Mike Russell, Mar 22, 2007
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  6. Joe

    keepout Guest

    I find a NEW program that I've been running since win98 that can NOT run or even install under Vista.

    Oddest being today. I have divx 5.1 If you'll check the sysinfo. Vista comes bundled with divx 5.1 in the media player.
    Long story short, I used the converter to chop 700 meg avi's down to 50 meg divx's. Divx is apologizing for Vista not being able to run the converter.

    What it requires is the mpeg1 audio codec. Divx says they'll catch up.
    Worst one being I can't install the All-in-one software for the HP scanner/printer/copier. It's an HP machine with vista installed.
    HP was screwed. They had zero choice. If they wanted to sell the machine with an OS installed, there was no other choice.
    Lose half their own software and user loyalty, or wait till M$ get's their act together.

    Actually I'm fine with HP doing it this way. The printer still works, thescanner and copier do also. The software was just an easy to use interface that tied everything together.

    They say they'll be releasing vista printer software, but I'm not holdingmy breath.

    I'd still be using my XP if it hadn't burned out under the 4 gigs of ram installed.

    FWIW: Never buy more than 2 gigs. a 3rd stick won't get it up to 3 gigs, and a 4th will put it only slightly over 3 gigs. The OS's aren't designed to use much over 2 gigs.
     
    keepout, Mar 22, 2007
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  7. Joe

    VideoGuru Guest

    This is one of hundreds of issues with legacy software that fails
    under Vista. Not only do you have to shell out money for a machine
    that will run it but you either dump your old software completely or
    pay hundreds of dollars to get the "latest" version!

    Yet there are people who defend MS and gladly shell out bucks! No
    wonder they don't care...
     
    VideoGuru, Mar 22, 2007
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  8. Joe

    Skinner1 Guest

    Excuse me! NOTHING beats OLD..... especially if you are old and still
    breathing! You might listen to OLD once in a while and learn some of
    the pitfalls to avoid as you get O L D!!
    My computer involvement goes back farther than DOS. I remember when
    they had transistoe cores!

    Yes. the OS is new. Yes it's going to be a pain. Who knows whether it
    will take hold. Knowing business in general as I do it will take hold
    from the sense that MS will do what is necessary to gloss over the
    complaints and force feed the marketplace what it feels is needed for
    the "future".

    And Adobe will support whatever is necessary to continue selling it's
    products. As will every other manufacturer and developer.

    And Microsoft will continue to try to monopolize every aspect of
    computer use as it always has.

    In short. It's going to be business as usual.

    And you, sir, hopefulle WILL get older. <Denture Smile>
     
    Skinner1, Mar 22, 2007
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  9. Joe

    Skinner1 Guest

    Ummm, I think your thread of conversation might be better served by
    alt.computers.vista.incessant.complaints

    As for here, your input is appreciated. We duely note your
    dissatisfaction with Vista. Thank you for your input.
     
    Skinner1, Mar 22, 2007
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  10. Joe

    Joe Guest

    I have no plan to upgrade to VISTA (yet) not because I like or dislike it
    (which I've never used to know myself), but because of my motherboard's
    built-in network card that requires specific driver comes with the mboardto
    work. Or if I upgrade to VISTA then I may have to replace the mboard, orI
    may have to disable the internal to use external network card.
     
    Joe, Mar 22, 2007
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  11. Joe

    Mike Russell Guest

    ....
    More power to you!

    The previous poster rubbed me the wrong way, and I couldn't resist
    responding.
     
    Mike Russell, Mar 22, 2007
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  12. Joe

    VideoGuru Guest

    It's really hard to know how much hassle you're in for. If you're
    comfortable building computers from scratch, you might be OK giving it
    a shot - when you have lot's of "free time". My main suggestion is
    find out if the drivers are Vista "ready" before you fire it up and
    things stop working! Lot's of vendors don't have anything ready for
    Vista - please find out in advance if you can.

    Good luck!
     
    VideoGuru, Mar 23, 2007
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  13. Building a computer from scratch, once the parts are laid out, takes
    less than an hour. If you do it often, it's half that. If you really
    have no idea what to do, there are many sites that will tell you how.
     
    Oliver Costich, Mar 23, 2007
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  14. Joe

    Joe Guest

    Yes, I have always built my own system since around mid 80's. I have
    never had any driver problem with all systems I built except this one (EPoX
    8KDA3I) that I can't get network (internet) to work unless I install the
    network driver came with the motherboard (I don't like this a bit).

    I guess my other option is to use external network card. Well, and it may
    be time to build a faster system <bg>
     
    Joe, Mar 23, 2007
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  15. Joe

    Joe Guest

    I have no problem building computer from scratch as I have been building
    1-2 a year or so since 80's.
     
    Joe, Mar 23, 2007
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  16. Joe

    Fishface Guest

    I have never had any driver problem with all systems I built
    I'm afraid I don't understand. Why don't you like it? Do you
    think the OS install should recognize it and automatically install
    a driver? Are you referring to Vista or XP in this regard?
     
    Fishface, Mar 24, 2007
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  17. Joe

    VideoGuru Guest

    Hmmm - don't get your point that my replys are "incessant" regarding
    the original post. What's "incessant" are the articles consistent with
    my experience from other companies and developers.

    That you don't agree or get it - yet - is your own personal issue.
    Please try reading the article from Adobe on the original post -
    slowly this time...
     
    VideoGuru, Mar 24, 2007
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  18. Joe

    Joe Guest

    No wonder you don't understand <bg> because I never said what you think I
    said <bg>

    I never said what you are asking, and never have thought about it to give
    you the answer. I think it would be better just to response to whatever
    other says instead of making wild guess.
     
    Joe, Mar 24, 2007
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    HOTMAIL Guest

    I presume VIDEOGuru is NOT complaining when he gets a check from his
    customer.

    I think there has ALWAYS been problems with a NEW ANYTHING but maybe
    VIdeoGuru is too immature or too young to know the too.

    When XP came out, many software supplies REFUSED to update their DLL's for
    add on equipment. As I recall, many of the printers and other hardware
    companies had RECORD profits since they did not want to service their on
    going equipment and thus it was easier to 'force' new items on the public
    (i.e. more revenues)


    One person's opinion.


    :
    : >
    : >> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:53:56 -0700, "Mike Russell"
    : >>
    : >[snip]
    : >
    : > I have no plan to upgrade to VISTA (yet) not because I like or dislike
    it
    : >(which I've never used to know myself), but because of my motherboard's
    : >built-in network card that requires specific driver comes with the mboard
    to
    : >work. Or if I upgrade to VISTA then I may have to replace the mboard, or
    I
    : >may have to disable the internal to use external network card.
    :
    : It's really hard to know how much hassle you're in for. If you're
    : comfortable building computers from scratch, you might be OK giving it
    : a shot - when you have lot's of "free time". My main suggestion is
    : find out if the drivers are Vista "ready" before you fire it up and
    : things stop working! Lot's of vendors don't have anything ready for
    : Vista - please find out in advance if you can.
    :
    : Good luck!
     
    HOTMAIL, Mar 24, 2007
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  20. Joe

    VideoGuru Guest

    So making money is all that matters here? Wow - those two sentences
    show you don't read (with comprehension) or have a clue as to what
    you're talking about! Too bad...
     
    VideoGuru, Mar 25, 2007
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