Adobe Photoshop 7.0 (not elements) will not save any files to the Hard drive.

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Mick, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. Mick

    Rikishi42 Guest

    It's not Photoshop's job to 'see' a drve space. Their job is to open, write,
    close the file. Full Stop.

    The last time I saw a drive (partition, actually) size limit, the hard drive
    was 30 MB large. MB, not GB...


    No, I think you might have issues with the rights on that drive.
     
    Rikishi42, Mar 16, 2014
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  2. Mick

    Mayayana Guest

    | a lot of people are saying Photoshop 7.0 (not elements is so outdated
    | I should update that rather than partition my 2 TB Sata Hard Drive!
    |

    Most people don't understand partitioning. It's
    simple. Just don't use Windows for it. I use BootIt
    for partitioning, disk imaging, etc. It's well worth
    the $35 price. A lot of people seem to like Macrium,
    which has a free version, but I don't know anything
    about it personally.

    In any case, leaving a 2 TB disk as one partition
    is crazy. What if you lose Windows to a blue screen
    or malware? If you have data partitions then your
    files don't need to be at risk when Windows goes down.

    An analogy might be taking all of your belongings
    when you travel. You could get a big truck and pack
    everything in. But why? The truck could break down,
    crash, or be stolen. Then you lose *all* of your
    belongings. If you just take what you need then all
    of your other belongings are safe, no matter what
    happens. (Of course, your house could burn down while
    you're away. That's why you also need a second disk
    and separate backup like DVDs or USB sticks. :)
     
    Mayayana, Mar 17, 2014
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  3. Mick

    Guest Guest

    actually it is, because photoshop manages its own virtual memory,
    independent of the operating system.
     
    Guest, Mar 17, 2014
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  4. Mick

    Guest Guest

    yet another reason to avoid it.
    for those who must partition, why not use windows?
    it's not crazy at all. the system is designed to work with one
    partition.
    in the event that happens, restore from a backup. no big deal.

    if it's malware, you'll want to do a clean install since you don't know
    whether the backup includes compromised files.
    not a good analogy.

    a better one would be having multiple houses and having to move stuff
    from one house to the other, depending on what you need at any given
    moment.

    that's the problem with partitioning. no matter what sizes you pick,
    your needs will change with system updates, new apps, more photos and
    videos you want to keep, etc. and the sizes you picked no longer work
    all that well.
     
    Guest, Mar 17, 2014
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  5. Mick

    Eric Stevens Guest

    I use Second Copy (recommended) http://www.secondcopy.com/ to back up
    all my user data and settings to two separate locations. One is
    another computer on my home network. The other is an external drive on
    my own machine.

    The most important content is the user data, all of which is on a
    separate drive in my computer and which can be addressed as a block.
    The settings are entangled in and a pain to extract from what I call
    the system drive which is a physically separate device from the user
    drive. I know you would have me backup the whole kit and caboodle just
    for the sake of convenience but I am afraid the idea of copying so
    much ever-changing rubbish offends me.
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 17, 2014
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  6. Mick

    Guest Guest

    ok, but weren't you complaining about disk space?
    the settings are important too!

    can't you exclude some of the stuff that doesn't matter?

    anyway, in the event of a restore, you're going to have to piece it all
    together, which is a pain and also time consuming.

    if you back up the whole lot, you only need to restore the whole lot,
    which is essentially just starting the process and letting it do its
    thing. when it's done, you're where you left off when the last backup
    was made.

    better yet, clone the drive and then replace the dead drive with the
    clone (or boot from it if physically swapping is not possible) and
    continue working. downtime is minutes, if that long.
     
    Guest, Mar 17, 2014
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  7. Mick

    J. Clarke Guest

    If you "lose Windows to a blue screen or malware" in such a way that you
    lose the contents of your first partition, you'll likely lose the
    contents to the second as well.
     
    J. Clarke, Mar 17, 2014
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  8. Mick

    Eric Stevens Guest

    Not as such. I was complaining about taking it up unecessarily by
    simple-minded blind backing up everything in my computer.
    I do copy them but they still are a pain to extract. There is no
    single place to go and find them all.
    I thought that's what I was doing.
    I've never had to do a restore since the days of WS2000.
    I don't entirely trust the things which can happen to the registry.
    I've seen weird behaviour ...

    I would rather start off with a clean reinstall. It takes a while but
    it is a method less prone to inheriting errors than just reinstalling
    from a backup.
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 17, 2014
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  9. Mick

    PeterN Guest

    If he has someting that is working for him, ther is no reason to switch.
     
    PeterN, Mar 17, 2014
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  10. Mick

    PeterN Guest

    I ran a test, PS7 will run with partitioning. He does not have a recent Mac.
     
    PeterN, Mar 17, 2014
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  11. Mick

    PeterN Guest

    Most people don't use a Nikon D800, and don't understand its features.
    Does that mean I should not use it?


    <>snip>
     
    PeterN, Mar 17, 2014
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  12. Mick

    Mayayana Guest

    | If you "lose Windows to a blue screen or malware" in such a way that you
    | lose the contents of your first partition, you'll likely lose the
    | contents to the second as well.

    Why? If I bluescreen and never get Windows
    back, I'll reinstall. Hopefully you're reinstalling
    from a disk image and not from scratch, but
    either way, won't you install to C drive? Why
    would that affect D/E/F/G drives, or partitions
    on a second disk?

    I suppose you could have malware that erases
    the whole disk, but in general, if you lose C drive
    that's all you lose.

    I've refreshed my main OS from a disk image
    (a copy of C drive) countless times -- deleting C drive
    and putting in a fresh copy. I just back up things like
    email and app data to another partition, erase C drive,
    put in a fresh copy, then copy back email and app data.
    It takes about an hour. I've never had any kind of
    data loss outside of C drive.


    If the disk dies... that's why you have a second,
    redundant disk.

    If the whole PC goes due to a power surge... that's
    why you also have separate backup.

    I don't understand why so many people think
    partitioning is some kind of hocus pocus. It just
    sets up the disk so that OSs see it as two or more
    separate disks. With a decent partitioning program it
    takes a few minutes, with no data loss. I've been
    doing it since I had a 2 GB disk. At times I've multi-
    booted 3-4 OSs, including one or more Linux versions
    and one or more Windows versions. To have a disk
    over 100 GB and *not* partition just makes no sense.

    I don't know much about Macs, though. I'm talking
    about Windows PCs. I wouldn't be surprised at any sort
    of punishment Apple carries out against "consumers"
    who don't follow orders. :)
     
    Mayayana, Mar 17, 2014
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  13. Mick

    Guest Guest

    who cares. disk space is cheap.

    doesn't it skip stuff that doesn't change?
    how much effort do you put into a backup?
    with a lot more work than is needed.
    you're lucky. buy a lottery ticket.
    it's a backup. if the registry is ok, then a copy of it should be ok.

    if not, then the registry was not as ok as you thought.
    and one which takes a lot longer.
     
    Guest, Mar 17, 2014
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  14. Mick

    Guest Guest

    it isn't working, thus his question.

    and even if it is, there's a decade of advancements since then.
     
    Guest, Mar 17, 2014
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  15. Mick

    Guest Guest

    what a fucked up comparison.
     
    Guest, Mar 17, 2014
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  16. Mick

    Guest Guest

    how do you know the malware hasn't compromised anything else on any
    other partition?

    you don't.

    ....
    it isn't that it's hard, it's that it's a waste of time, wastes disk
    space and isn't needed in nearly all situations. that's why.
    it makes a lot of sense.

    maybe not to you but you don't know much about modern operating systems.
    or much else.
    your'e a moron.

    macs can manage more partitions far better than windows could ever
    dream of (there's no limit to how many partitions on a single drive,
    all of which are bootable) but it's a waste of time except for edge
    cases that almost never apply.
     
    Guest, Mar 17, 2014
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  17. Mick

    J. Clarke Guest

    Reinstalling Windows does not require that the disk be erased. As for
    "reinstalling" from an image, you need to install enough Windows to
    restore the image.

    Personally I find this particular fear to be somewhat overblown. You
    are more likely to lose Windows to a failed disk than to malware or a
    bluescreen.
    I see. So you're one of these people who chronically restores things
    that don't need to be restored. I've run servers for a living. You
    don't just restore a server on a whim. And it's the same OS.
    I typically use multiple partitions but not due to any misguided concern
    over recoverability--I generall have several operating systems that I
    might want to use from time to time.

    I've never seen any need for third-party partitioning software. Windows
    does fine for Windows partitions.
     
    J. Clarke, Mar 17, 2014
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  18. Mick

    Mick Guest

    Hi all,
    The 2 TB Hard drive was partitioned into two today, and
    Adobe Photoshop 7.0 is now saving files to the hard drive ok.
    Thank you for your help.
    Mick.
     
    Mick, Mar 17, 2014
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  19. Mick

    Eric Stevens Guest

    But finite.
    It will copy it the first time but after that it will ignore it.
    None, now. It does it all itself.
    Only at the setup stage.
    In the event of problems I'm always doubtful about whether or not the
    registry is OK.
    Who cares? I haven't had to do it for many years and in any case I'm
    retired.
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 17, 2014
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  20. Mick

    Guest Guest

    even without the event of problems, how can anyone be sure the registry
    is ok.

    anyway, my point is if you clone everything, you have exactly what you
    had before the drive failed. if you were ok with how it worked before
    the failure, then you will be ok with how it works after a restore.
    buy a lottery ticket.
     
    Guest, Mar 17, 2014
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