Adobe Premiere won't open files captured with Pinnacle Studio 8

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Doc, Jan 2, 2005.

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    Doc Guest

    Captured a bunch of analog video with Pinnacle Studio 8 and thought I'd try
    Adobe Premiere 5.1 to edit them with. Keep getting an "unable to open
    unsupported format" message.

    What does this message mean, and is there any way to get Premiere to open
    these files?

    Using Windows XP, Compaq PIII 933mhz, 384 megs ram, Pinnacle DC10-Plus card,
    video captured onto 120 gig 7200 rpm Maxtor drive formatted NTFS, Pinnacle
    Studio 8.12.7, captured at 6000 kbps, 29.97 fps, both frames, full
    resolution, audio 48khz captured through Audigy 2 soundcard.

    Thanks for any assistance.
    Doc, Jan 2, 2005
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    Will Dormann Guest

    You need to install a software MJPEG codec.
    Will Dormann, Jan 2, 2005
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    Doc Guest

    Where can I download such a codec? Doesn't this come with Studio or the
    DC10+ card?
    Doc, Jan 2, 2005
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    Will Dormann Guest

    Will Dormann, Jan 2, 2005
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    Donald Link Guest

    Just courious why you would want to do this. Pinnacle uses its codec
    and I am sure you could probably convert to a codec file that Premiere
    would reconize. 5.1 is fairly old and may also have some compatibilty
    problems. Anyone please offer some suggestions.
    Donald Link, Jan 3, 2005
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    Doc Guest

    A couple of reasons. One is because Pinnacle seems to have some serious
    issues but is useful for capturing. Long story, many wrestling matches with
    this program as I find is the norm. The other reason is I'd just like to try
    Premiere as I recently got an eBay copy for not very much. I found it opened
    video fine that I have on a Win98SE machine but seem to have problems with
    video that was captured on an XP machine. Not sure what the difference is.
    Doc, Jan 3, 2005
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    Will Dormann Guest

    That's about all Pinnacle Studio is good for! :)

    On a Win9x machine, I believe VfW MJPEG codecs are provided. But with
    Win2k on, the drivers are directshow-only. If you want legacy software
    support, you need to install a VfW MJPEG codec.
    Will Dormann, Jan 3, 2005
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    Jimmy Guest

    He said he was having problems with Premiere not Pinnacle. I have no
    problems with Pinnacle as I have the latest version that works fine and I
    have it configured right. Premiere is more trouble to work then Pinnacle.
    Jimmy, Jan 3, 2005
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    JimmyCliff Guest

    What format did you capture them as and what do you want to do with the
    final movie? Do you want to output for DVD or SVCD or MPEG? Once the
    captured file is in Pinnacle you can output it to AVI then Premiere will
    open it. You may have to import this video file but you have to give more
    detail. I would stick with Pinnacle unless you are having difficulties then
    post them here.

    JimmyCliff, Jan 3, 2005
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    Doc Guest

    Actually, I did mention severe problems with Pinnacle.
    Then you're one of the lucky ones. Take a look at the archives of this forum
    as well as the webboard forums at Many, many, MANY
    problems. It has nothing to do with having "the latest version" or having
    enough computer or "having it configured right". Pinnacle Studio is
    notorious for being buggy crap.
    Could be but it appears to have a far better rep than Pinnacle.
    Doc, Jan 3, 2005
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    Doc Guest

    Does Pinnacle Studio make an initial capture as anything other than avi? If
    so, I don't see any option for it.
    Doc, Jan 3, 2005
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    Jimmy Guest

    You can capture to AVI or MPEG and custom settings for both.
    Jimmy, Jan 3, 2005
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    Jimmy Guest

    Premiere has far more versions and has been around way longer than Pinnacle
    Studio. Many versions of Premiere are useless too and there are more
    upgraded versions then Studio. There are several updated versions of Studio
    which have addressed fixes with each update. I have had great luck with the
    configuration that I am using and have to say that it has to be more than
    luck and everything to do with configuration. I started out with a custom
    built system for DV editing. I installed Studio with all the tweaks to get
    it to work fine. I then added other SW little by little checking each app
    for conflicts. I installed Studio on older system that had been running
    other apps and I did have problems. Most users feel they should be able to
    just install and off they go trying to make DVDs from every old VHS tape
    they find around the house. If it doesn't work then come the complaints.
    There are some issues with Studio like motherboards and CPUs that give
    trouble but those people will not accept this are not willing to either
    install the hardware required or give up on Studio so they continue to
    complain. I have seen many people complain relentlessly about this and just
    can't let go. I say it is good software once and one other guy says it sucks
    hundreds of times. You have to make up your mind once and for all if it is
    useable and either keep it or not.
    Jimmy, Jan 3, 2005
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    Doc Guest

    That hardly encompasses the wide variety of complaints that people have
    about Pinnacle Studio, in particular version 8 and 9. Again, take a look at
    the Pinnacle user forums - people with the latest, beefiest computers, all
    the patches and updates, doing digital capture have seemingly incurable
    problems as well as people doing analog capture.

    Another issue is their tech support which is utterly useless.

    Even a former Pinnacle programmer has told me their software is garbage and
    their business structure is terrible, which matches up with the experience
    of myself and many others.
    Doc, Jan 3, 2005
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    Doc Guest

    Where are these settings in Studio 8?
    Doc, Jan 3, 2005
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    Jimmy Guest

    Capture/Settings/Capture format/(presets)AVI or MPEG/(next to the right is
    quality)Custom(will now allow various settings like Indoe Video 5.10)

    Got it yet?
    Jimmy, Jan 3, 2005
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    Will Dormann Guest

    Hm, I thought that with a DC10+ it was MJPEG AVI or nothing.
    It's been a while since I used mine, though...
    Will Dormann, Jan 3, 2005
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    Jimmy Guest

    Maybe you are right and it then depends on the capture hardware. I am using
    the AIT AIW 7500 card so maybe this is the underlying factor. This then
    could be many of the difficulties that others are having. Hardware and not
    Pinnacle software which make sence to me.

    Jimmy, Jan 4, 2005
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    Jimmy Guest

    I agree with you on this point but my point is that it can and does work
    and has to be a configuration issue. The exact same software with the exact
    same hardware configuration along with the same installation of various
    other applications that may or may not conflict has to work the same on
    different machines. Correct?
    I am not a fan of any company regarding tech support. Many great and
    successful companies have poor support.

    I am not saying there are no problems. From where I sit all is well as with
    others that have no issues. I just don't see a happy user stating this more
    than once and the unhappy ones will most likely out number the other with
    many more posts making it seem like there are far more than there really
    are. Then there are the ones that don't even own the SW and repeat the
    troubles of the ones they read about. I know I have read MANY post from the
    ones that 'HEARD' about the problems.

    Jimmy, Jan 4, 2005
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    Bariloche Guest

    if it's with a DC-10, then it only captures MJpeg Avis. With an
    All-In-Wonder it captures mpeg as well. Mjpegs coming from DC-10
    should open easily in Premiere as long as the system has an Mjpeg
    decoder. There are Mjpeg codecs from MainConecpt, PicVideo, Morgan...
    Bariloche, Jan 4, 2005
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