Advice for Kodak - Again

Discussion in 'Kodak' started by Tony Whitaker, Dec 29, 2003.

  1. I've mentioned this before, but my opinion is reinforced by
    experience with my new Christmas toy - an Epson Perfection 3170

    I'm getting very, very nice results using this scanner to scan
    medium format slides.

    I'm NOT getting such nice results from scanning 35mm slides. I've
    scanned the same slides on the Epson that I got scanned by using a Nikon LS4000ED, and there's no contest. The
    Nikon dedicated film scanner does a tremendously better job.

    Now, I know a dedicated film scanner would also do a tremendously
    better job with medium format slides, but my point is that the cheap
    ($200) Epson scanner is good enough when paired with medium format
    slides to produce super quality posters - I'll bet alot better than
    my 5 megapixel digicam.

    So - Kodak - if you really want to keep film alive a bit longer
    (maybe you don't), you should promote it as the medium to use in the
    last niche where it's viable - poster sized enlargements or bigger.

    Imagine a $200 medium format camera (Brownie II?) that's very simple
    - all mechanical - perhaps able, with an appropriate adpater, to use
    any manufacturer's 35mm camera lenses. Perhaps manufactured by
    Seagull, and promoted as a poster making machine.

    Of course, just before I posted this, I had a few. So, the question
    is: is my inebriated vision viable, or am I just drunk?
    Tony Whitaker, Dec 29, 2003
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  2. I'd say only slightly drunk<g>.

    When I moved from 5MP digital to 645 with the 2450, our CEO reported that my
    photography got a lot better.

    But looking closely, I thought the D60 samples I downloaded looked better
    than the 2450 645 scans. So I bought a Nikon 8000.

    A sharp 645 slide scanned with a Nikon 8000 coughs up as much or more detail
    than the 1Ds.

    But people shooting 6x7 _color negative_ film were in seventh heaven with
    the 2450. They get better 13x19s than the 6MP dSLR types can dream of.

    FWIW, I expect that the Epson 4870 will improve quite a bit on the 3170, for
    about US$400.

    But MF is a disaster. The cameras are heavy and awkward, the lenses slow,
    the film/processing expensive.

    You'd have to be nuts to use MF.

    David J. Littleboy

    Tokyo, Japan
    David J. Littleboy, Dec 29, 2003
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  3. So your experience is that color negative film does better than
    slide film? I think you know that's not my experience, but I've only
    used a handfull of films. What negative film do you use that does so
    lenses slow, the film/processing expensive.
    I bought an old Yashica MAT 124G on Ebay. It's not too awkward or
    heavy. The simple light meter works perfectly. And remember, I'm
    only proposing its use for a very narrow niche - people who
    specifically want to make posters.

    Also, I'm surprised at how cheap slide processing is. It costs $10
    for a 24 exposure roll of 220 slide film, and $8 to get it
    processed. That's only $.75 per slide, and the local lab usually
    returns my slides the next afternoon.
    Tony Whitaker, Dec 29, 2003
  4. I found that the 2450 had troubles with high contrast slides: essentially
    the bright (thin) areas would flare. Negatives looked pretty good, since the
    orange mask means that there's no gross contrasts to flare. I didn't stay
    with the 2450 very long, but the people who used it with 6x7 color negatives
    were clearly the happiest.
    MF looks a lot better than 35mm or 6MP digital at A4, even on inkjet prints.
    If you want a slightly easier to use MF camera with a better lens, check out
    the Fuji GS645S. It's a rangefinder with a 60mm f/4.0 lens. A tad wider than
    your YashicaMAT. But it's 645, not 6x6, so the macho MF types will kick sand
    in your face.
    You're lucky: the local lab here takes almost a week. And charges $17. That
    means a roll of 220 is around US$35. But I get 30 shots.

    David J. Littleboy
    Tokyo, Japan
    David J. Littleboy, Dec 30, 2003
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