Advice on camera purchase

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Freud, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. Freud

    Freud Guest

    Years ago I did a fair amount of 35mm SLR photography, but for the past
    7 years I've been sticking to digital P&S. I really have the itch to get
    back into SLRs though, and so I've been looking around. At first from
    reading reviews I thought the Rebel XT/350D was a no brainer, but when I
    actually held one I felt that it was really physically too small for me
    - my hands are quite large and it just didn't feel right. So I'm leaning
    towards the Nikons, and I saw that B & H has a D70 kit (with the 28-70
    lens) for $930 after rebate. This seems like a pretty good deal to me,
    both compared to the D50 & the D70S. I preferred the feel of the 28-70
    kit lens over the 28-50 that the D50 has, and from what I've read it may
    be a better lens overall. I'll probably be sticking with the kit lens
    for a while, since this will be pushing my budget a bit. Any opinions on
    this - does it sound like a sweet spot pricewise? I've been looking at
    used D70s on ebay, but I'm wary of a lot of the stuff I'm seeing, plus
    the kits seem to get bid up pretty close to this price anyway.
    Thanks for reading, any tips appreciated.
    Freud, Oct 10, 2005
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  2. Look at the 350D with the BG-E1 grip added. It will feel much better.


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    John A. Stovall, Oct 11, 2005
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    Freud Guest

    Freud, Oct 11, 2005

  4. Bobby, I felt the same way which as very disappointing because the camera
    has excellent features. I eventually bought the 20D and I love it.
    However, I already had the original Digital Rebel, which is closer to the
    size of the 20D, so I already had lenses.

    Anyway, take a look at the 20D and if it fits within your budget go for it.
    Also keep in mind that many have said they were uncomfortable with the XT
    size at first but have grown to love it.
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Oct 11, 2005
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    Freud Guest

    The 20D sure does look nice, but I think it's out of my budget - it's always
    a question of "college fund or toys?" right now with two little ones...
    I am really going to look at the XT again, maybe get that & if I can't get
    used to the size get the grip. The vertical shutter release looks like it
    would come in handy too.
    Freud, Oct 11, 2005
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    M Guest

    I have just purchased the XT (or 350D) and I also had misgivings about the
    small size (especially as my other camera is a chunky EOS 30 with a battery
    grip and I have big hands). However once I started using it (even with my
    28-135 lens which obviously dwarfs the camera) I found that it was okay.
    With the larger lenses I find that you can balacnce and hold the camera
    fairly well just by keeping your left hand on the lens. I may also get the
    battery grip some time which I am sure will help also.

    Why buy the 20D when you can get the same image quality for much less
    price - you will get used to the smaller size trust me.
    M, Oct 11, 2005
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    Jim Guest

    While it looks like you are going back to the Canon camp (no problem
    with that), I too find many cameras too small for my hands. I just
    can't hold a big lens still, although I do use tripods extensively.
    That being said, you can upgrade a D70 to a D70s by downloading new
    "firmware" into a D70. You miss a couple of a things, the biggest
    being the larger screen.

    All that being said, I love the D70s. You might want to look at a
    different lens. The 28-70 is equivalent to a 43 to 105 in 35mm format.
    Nothing very wide. I have the 18-70, which I like, but I often finding
    I want my old 20m back (ie, 12mm in Digital)
    Jim, Oct 11, 2005
  8. On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:02:10 -0400, "Robert R Kircher, Jr."

    I found the 20D too small until I added an extended grip.

    A man said to the universe:
    "Sir, I exist!"
    "However" replied the universe,
    "The fact has not created in me
    A sense of obligation."
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    John A. Stovall, Oct 11, 2005
  9. Try using to search for old discussions of these
    cameras. As well, I like the reviews written at, and
    the buy/sell forum there is quite good.
    I own a Canon, and as such I can only speak about the Canon line. I
    don't think there is much difference between Canon and Nikon except that
    once you're in one camp you're generally there for a while due to financial
    reasons. The dRebel, Rebel XT, 20D, d50, d70s, are all excellent values.
    The Rebel XT is a good little camera, but it's little. The 300D is a
    great camera that will leave a little $$ for lenses, and takes great pics as
    long as working in low light and super-fast autofocus aren't critical
    features for you. (If the low light and focus tracking are important, I
    recommend saving for a used 20D, which should be just about $1000 now).
    I found the kit lens to be a pretty big limitation - not in quality so
    much but range. Having some extra $$ to buy a good zoom or whatever you
    need IMO is more valuable than buying the fanciest body you can afford at
    the moment. I suppose if you plan on having more money available for lenses
    in the not-too-distant future, the kit lens is enough, but IMO the kit lens
    should not be considered as a feature during your purchase.

    David Geesaman, Oct 11, 2005
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    Freud Guest

    I'm sure I will end up with some other lenses soon enough, but I thought
    I'd start with the kit lens & see if its limitations are really
    important to me. Just having a large degree of control and a decent lens
    will be really nice after point & shoots for so long - whatever I end up
    getting will be a giant step forwards, & honestly it'll probably be my
    own limitations rather than the camera's that will hold me back...
    Freud, Oct 11, 2005
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    Freud Guest

    I just bought the XT from Dell for $790 incl s/h - too good to pass up.
    If I can't deal with the size I'll get the grip.
    Thanks for the advice, I'm sure I'll be posting some questions once I
    learn how to use the thing.
    Freud, Oct 11, 2005
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    DonB Guest

    Perhaps you might also consider the new Olympus E-500 which has had
    excellent first look reviews. It will handle better than the 350D in
    male hands, and the kit lenses are better than the Canon's,
    DonB, Oct 11, 2005
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