after Nikon D70 passes 9999 images.... then what in terms of the filenames

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Destin_FL, May 20, 2008.

  1. Destin_FL

    Destin_FL Guest

    I have passed 9999 images being taken with my Nikon D70. No big deal, but now the
    folders and file names are rest to _0000 I guess because Nikon failed to make the
    fifth digit available for 10,000 10,001 etc. etc... is there any way to make the
    D70 keep counting up past 10,000 ? Or am I forced to have 9999 duplicate files
    and file names on my computer?

    Thanks for any insight!

    Tim

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    Destin_FL, May 20, 2008
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  2. Destin_FL

    Paul Furman Guest

    Yep. I think it's standard for (all?) digital cameras.
    You can rename all your new files when offloading with a 1 on the front :)

    seriously though, you can do an easy kludge by changing the file naming
    prefix from DSC to DC1:

    _DSC0001.JPG
    _DC10001.JPG

    I changed it to my initials _PBF36754.JPG. One could do this with a new
    camera but start with _PF0 so it sorts when rolling over to _PF1.
     
    Paul Furman, May 20, 2008
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  3. Looks like the folder/file naming conventions were created to conform
    to the limitations MS DOS and Windows used to have of an 8-character limit
    on file names (and 3 on extensions). That's probably not defeatable with
    your camera. Thanks again, Microsoft.
     
    Blinky the Shark, May 20, 2008
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  4. Destin_FL

    Destin_FL Guest

    Paul, many thanks, excellent advice which I will start immediately following.

    Just the _DC1 thing alone is a perfect solution. My tiny brain would have never
    thought of that!

    Thanks a million!

    Tim
     
    Destin_FL, May 20, 2008
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  5. Destin_FL

    Paul Furman Guest

    You might as well include enough for a million images and use _E01.

    The E sorts after the D in DSC which is convenient.

    _DSC9999.JPG
    _E010001.JPG

    not:

    _D010001.JPG
    _DSC9999.JPG

    Really the best solution is to name the files by the date taken (and
    it's possible to rename with some utilities) but this is not bad, and
    easy to do. I wish I'd thought of it earlier. Hmm, ignoring the last
    century, and assuming you won't shoot more than 9999/year, you could
    instead use the year: '08

    _D089999.JPG
    _D090001.JPG


    PS It seems the default now is to restart from 01 every time the card is
    cleared and that may be the more practical approach.
     
    Paul Furman, May 20, 2008
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  6. Blinky the Shark wrote:
    []
    Yes, indeed, thanks are due to Microsoft for creating a standard which is
    in use world-wide and allows great interoperability between different
    devices. Perhaps you should really thank SCP, or even CP/M, or even the
    PDP-OS on which it was based...

    David
     
    David J Taylor, May 20, 2008
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  7. <yawn> Even MS left the 8.3 convention behind a long time ago, so I don't
    believe that it (8.3) is excatly holy.
     
    Blinky the Shark, May 20, 2008
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  8. So why write your post as if Microsoft were to blame?

    David
     
    David J Taylor, May 20, 2008
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  9. Destin_FL

    Focus Guest

    I use Adobe Bridge for viewing and renaming.
    I renamed all folders and files like this:

    folders: AA, AB, etc. now up to DC. I let Bridge rename the files like this:
    first the name of the folder, then the date and then a number with 3 digits.
    You do have to put the counter to 1 when you do a new folder, because it
    starts again with the last count.

    Now I can find my original files fast (RAW), they all have unique names and
    I still see the date without having to open the file.

    Just a thought.
     
    Focus, May 20, 2008
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  10. Destin_FL

    Dev/Null Guest

    I also set-up folders under year > subfolders > month and so on. I am not
    sure what people with several bodies do.
     
    Dev/Null, May 20, 2008
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  11. Destin_FL

    Destin_FL Guest

    OK, I have most likely a really stupid question ... naming photos as to their date
    seems to have been the right thing to do for years... I know all the photo album
    software apps make that simple.

    But I have personally never understand why anybody would want their photos named
    by date. I can't remember when I took a certain photo, so attempting to find any
    given photo by date would be utterly useless to me.

    I ask this completely sincerely, and genuinely would love the insight....
    So far all I really see as being of benefit is to name them all by some sort of
    keyword, like 108_Maple_Street_001.nef or .jpg etc. etc.

    T
     
    Destin_FL, May 20, 2008
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  12. It was that MS limitation that most likely influenced Nikon's naming
    convention, mm? I doubt that they were coding for CP/M. But we'll
    continue to view MS differently, so I doubt that there's any real reason
    to continue this discussion. You'll hug; I'll diss. Blinky out.
     
    Blinky the Shark, May 20, 2008
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  13. Indeed. Naming a photo by date is simply adding a third representation
    of the same information which can already be found in the file date and
    the EXIF date field. Absolutely no benefit.
    Well, you knew you were on vacation in Hawaii in December 2004 or your
    brother married on 23-August-1994. So searching for that date might help
    sometimes to find a specific photo. But there is still no reason to use
    the file name for that purpose.
    Which becomes very cumbersome very fast.

    Much better to use a database system, where you can associate any photo
    with as many keywords as you like. Then just search for any combination
    of keywords
    "Billies Birthday" and "2005" and ("Aunt Joanne" or "Susan") and
    not "Uncle Joe".
    Those systems as integrated components of the e.g. MS Digital Imaging,
    Adobe Photshop, and other photo editing systems.

    jue
     
    Jürgen Exner, May 20, 2008
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  14. Destin_FL

    me Guest

    For multiple cameras I use Year => Camera model => Date/subject
     
    me, May 20, 2008
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  15. Destin_FL

    OG Guest

    For our dslr I just set up a folder for each year (currently 2008Photos) ,
    and each unload of photos has a download date and 'meaningful title'
    (2008_05_18_MidWales).

    I then use Bulk Rename Utility to change the individula file names to the
    EXIF date and time (at least, I do this when I remember to, usually I'll
    end up renaming a couple of Month's worth of images at the same time).

    This then matches the folder and file naming convention that FinePixViewer
    follows when unloading images from our Fuji F610.
     
    OG, May 20, 2008
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  16. Destin_FL

    OG Guest

    To you perhaps, but when I'm using stitching software it makes it very
    straightforward to have the hhmmss explicit in the file name so that I can
    identify images taken together in the 'open' file dialog.

    It also means that photos are sorted in chronological order by default.
     
    OG, May 20, 2008
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  17. On 20-May-08 17:01:25, Dev/Null said


    Have lots of fun at the weekend? ;)



    All the best,
    Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

    I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
    Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
     
    Angus Manwaring, May 20, 2008
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  18. Blinky the Shark wrote:
    []
    The naming standard is from DCF - not Microsoft nor Nikon but an
    industry-wide standard.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system

    http://www.exif.org/dcf.PDF

    David
     
    David J Taylor, May 20, 2008
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  19. Destin_FL

    me Guest

    Don't confuse the issue with facts David. The bashers don't care about
    such.
     
    me, May 20, 2008
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  20. And I suppose they made that decision in a vacuum, with not a single
    thought to the predominant operating system on PCs of that (19998) era.[1]
    As I said, there's really no place for this to go. I'll try again to let
    it drop. Consider this a virtual post: you may have the last word that way.

    [1] Despite the Windows/MS trademark disclaimer being the only mention of
    any operating system in that PDF document.
     
    Blinky the Shark, May 21, 2008
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