AG-DVX100 vs. GR-HD1 ?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Robert Morein, Oct 8, 2003.

  1. Would appreciate a comparison of the following cameras for indie film
    production, with film transfer in the back of my mind :).

    Would it be one of the JVC HD cum MPEG offerings?, ie., the GR-HD1, JV-H10U
    or would it be
    the Panasonic AG-DVX100 ?

    Intuitively, it would seem to me that the GR-HD1 trumps everything else.
    But what's available to edit this on a Windows platform?
    Robert Morein, Oct 8, 2003
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  2. Robert Morein

    Dan Maas Guest

    Would appreciate a comparison of the following cameras for indie film
    The Panasonic AG-DVX100 has the notable advantage of shooting at
    24fps, which makes film transfers much easier (and higher quality).
    Final Cut and Vegas have been taught to understand the DVX100's
    telecine mode and allow editing at 24fps.

    The HD cameras give you more pixels, but I hesitate to recommend
    anything MPEG-2 based as an editing format. I don't think the
    Quicktime MPEG-2 component will even open these files, since they are
    transport streams.

    Dan Maas, Oct 9, 2003
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  3. Robert Morein

    Brian Quandt Guest

    HEURIS just announced a "Pro Indie HD Toolkit" which provides the
    support for QT and OS-X and the JVC HD1 or JYHD10U camera. One other
    thing is the collection of tools also supports authoring via 1394 to a
    DVHS player for output!

    Here's some more detail (from an internal announcment to JVC):

    HEURIS has built 3 products which it will bundle together into a
    single package called the "Indy HD Toolkit – for HDV". An import tool
    (from HDV Camera), and encoder, and an export tool (to DVHS). These
    tools build upon a recent addition to the Apple OS-X operating system
    which enables the transfer and processing of video in a MPEG-2
    Transport format (HDV) through the existing 1394 connector. These
    tools enable through the connection of a 1394 cable to the camera or
    DVHS player an ability to edit the video and or combine the camera
    video with other effects or video from other projects.

    1. Using the Camera shoot in the HDV HD format, recording to a mini-DV
    tape. Connect a 1394 cable to the camera, and an Apple. Transfer the
    video to the Apple desktop using the import tool "Extractor HDV" from
    HEURIS. This utility will convert the HDV data to one that is
    recognized by Apple QuickTime. The result of the transfer is the
    creation of a MPEG-2 HD video elementary file, and an uncompressed
    audio file in AIFF format. Both of these files can be played directly
    from within the QuickTime Movie Player, or dropped into the bin of
    Final Cut Pro for editing.

    2. From within Final Cut Pro, after the sequences are edited, the
    video may be reconverted back to the HDV format by the HEURIS encoder
    known as "MPEG Power Professional – DTVHD." The result of this will
    create a transport stream on the Apple Desktop.

    3. To play the file back and/or to transfer it to a DVHS player,
    HEURIS has created a third utility which copies the data from the
    Apple desktop to a DVHS player.

    Marketing and Expected Audience
    Two usages are expected by this product:
    · Creation of Indy Film's and editing of this format.
    · HD Commerce usages, namely in creating content kiosks in museums,
    and commercial displays. Another possible usage of the HEURIS
    playback tool in combination with the DVHS player is a very reliable
    kiosk engine for commercial applications (hard drive storage of the
    HDV file, while using the decoder of the DVHS to drive the display

    System Requirements
    · Apple G4, dual 1.2 GHz, 500meg ram
    · OS-X version 10.2.6
    · Apple QuickTime 6.x with MPEG-2 decoding support
    Brian Quandt, Oct 21, 2003
  4. How does this compare to the Windows based editing package included with the
    JVC ?
    Robert Morein, Oct 21, 2003
  5. Robert Morein

    Brian Quandt Guest

    "> >

    Umm, that's a bit like asking me to compare apples to uhh, oranges.

    Any Final Cut Pro users out there, want to tell us what you really
    think of trying to edit in a PC world versus on an Apple?

    In any case, the application included with the JVC is a cuts only type
    editor with minimal abilities, afterall it's free.

    Yours truly,
    Brian Quandt, Oct 25, 2003
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