AMD 64-Bit Opteron WORKSTATION Mainboard

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by AnthonyR, Jul 15, 2003.

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    AnthonyR Guest

    Jerry,
    I can't wait to upgrade to this combo, 64bit cpu and 64 bit OS,
    Of course just like when we went from 16 bit windows to 32 bit windows, we
    still needed the software vendors to re-write the internal code to take
    advantage of the 64bit processing power, remember?
    It will eventually be the norm, and rendering will be so fast we won't even
    notice it, LOL
    I just wish things moved faster with new releases, but it is happening. :)

    AnthonyR
     
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    Jerry Jones Guest

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    Paul Gunson Guest


    its a shame this motherboard only has 32bit 33MHz PCI arcitecture.

    unlike Tyan Xeon workstation boards (i7505) and their Opteron server
    boards with 64bit PCI-X. I suspect Tyan will do it properly when they
    get around to a workstation version of their Opteron board..... if
    ever... i dunno, the Opteron's whole release in terms of motherboard
    support has seemed pretty half-arsed and slow.
     
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    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO rec.video - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <bf24cg$7l1$> on Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:00:36 +1200, Paul
    I'd personally say it's been remarkably fast.
     
    John Navas, Jul 16, 2003
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    RC Guest

    You're probably right about the firewire 400/800 cards not needing the
    faster slot, but I bet it would be nice to put the RAID 5 controller
    card in a PCI-X, or at least a 66MHz PCI, slot. :)

    RC
     
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    AnthonyR Guest

    Yes, I guess if you are getting dropped frames now with your current raid
    solution caused by the pci limitation then you might benefit from a faster
    pci.
    But with plain ol' dv video I am editing, a regular ide drive (no raid)
    works for me, so I still will enjoy the benefit from the faster cpu
    rendering and don't need the faster pci bus, not yet anyway.
    But again, that's me.
    :)
    AnthonyR.
     
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    Jerry Jones Guest

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    AnthonyR Guest

    well Spiderman, it might be, but for me, I personally only chose to upgrade
    the components I need.
    My Super cooling tower, high power power supply, large hard drives, fast
    video card, large fast ddr memory, sound card all work well for me, no
    reason to have to buy them all over.
    When I upgrade, it will just be a motherboard and cpu.
    So for me, the Mac isn't an option.
    But for you maybe it is.

    AnthonyR
     
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    Jerry Jones Guest

    why not using G5 with Mac OS jaguar... should be faster right?

    I haven't seen any benchmarks to suggest:

    - that a 64-Bit IBM-powered G5 running on the 64-Bit Panther operating system

    - would be any faster than an AMD Opteron running on 64-Bit Windows

    It would be a very interesting comparison, however.

    Jerry Jones
    http://www.jonesgroup.net
     
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    Jerry Jones Guest

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    Jerry Jones Guest

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  12. Wouldn't it be better to use the Raid capabilities of the included Serial
    ATA controller?
    a.. Integrated Promise PDC20378 supports two Serial ATA Ports and one
    Parallel ATA Port
    b.. Supports RAID 0, 1, 10

    I'm using Seagate Barracuda SATA drives on my current setup (Asus A7N8X
    Deluxe) and am very pleased with the performance.

    Charles Tomaras
    Seattle, WA
     
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    Gary P Guest

    I thought an Opteron 64 bit desktop was released in June?

    See below, from an email I read elsewhere: All the below is quoted:

    --------------------------

    This sounds almost like something out of Spinal Tap, but it's a real
    interview. Apple needs to stop lying about having the "world's fastest
    desktop computer", the "first 64bit personal computer" and the rest of
    their reality-distorting claims. For those of you actually interested
    in the 64bit chip from this article, take all of Apple's claims with a
    pound of salt, AMD and Intel's 64bit chips are just as powerful, if
    not more so. Obviously some people at Apple don't seem to realize
    these chips exist...

    http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2003/06_jun/features/cw_macg5_interview.htm

    DMN: Now, you're saying it's the first 64-bit desktop machine. But
    isn't there an Opteron dual-processor machine? It shipped on June 4th.
    BOXX Technologies shipped it. It has an Opteron 244 in it.

    [Apple senior VP Jon] Rubinstein: Uh...

    [IBM VP Jon] Akrout: It's not a desktop.

    DMN: That's a desktop unit.

    Akrout: It depends on what you call a desktop, now. These. From a full
    desktop per se, this is the first one. I don't know how you really
    distinguish the other one as a desktop.

    DMN: Well, it's a dual processor desktop machine, just like that one.

    Akrout: It's not 64, then.

    DMN: Yes, it's a 64-bit machine with two Opteron chips in it. It
    started shipping June 4th.

    Akrout: That we'll double check, but in my mind, it wasn't.

    *****

    Here you can see Mr. Akrout is a rotten egg liar:

    BOXX:

    http://www.boxxtech.com/asp/cf_step2.asp?ModelInstanceID=180

    Apple's phony claims, notice the Opteron is not mentioned:

    http://www.apple.com/g5/

    Opteron benchmarks:

    http://www.amdzone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1296&page=2
     
    Gary P, Jul 21, 2003
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