Analog to DVD - Almost have It!!!

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by James Wilson, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. James Wilson

    James Wilson Guest

    I have been lurking in this ng for some time now and thanks to all the
    information included here, I have successfully digitized, edited,
    converted and burned one of my old 8mm tapes from 1993.

    My process is to use my Sony TRV38 as the analog to digital conversion
    and capture straight into DV using WinDV. I use Sony Vegas 4.0 to
    edit and render to a DV file after editing. I then use Cinema Craft
    Encoder to encode to MPEG2. In my first attempt the video was very
    shaky and thanks to this ng I was able to determine that I needed top
    field first during the encode.

    My latest settings on CCE are to encode with Multipass MPEG-2 with a
    variable bit rate of 4,000 kbps Min, 6,000 kbps Avg and 8,000 kbps Max
    with top field first. The edited clip is about 45 minutes long so
    this results in a total DVD file size of about 2 GB.

    I use TMPGEnc DVD Author to create chapter points and to write the DVD
    file to my hard drive. Then I use NERO 5 to burn the file to the DVD.
    There is only one option for burn speed in NERO which is 2.4X. The
    result is a DVD which plays perfectly in my two year old Mintek DVD
    player all the way up until about the last 5 minutes of the 45 minute
    clip. At this point the video starts to get blocky and has freezing
    episodes.

    To rule out bad media I have burned the same clip on about four
    different DVDs and they all seem to start to get erratic around the
    same point. To rule out bit rate problems I even put the same clip
    twice on the same DVD. The first clip plays perfectly up until about
    40 minutes into the first clip and then starts to go down hill. The
    early parts of the second clip will barely play and the final parts of
    the second clip will not play at all.

    All DVDs I have created will play fine on my computer using PowerDVD
    so I think the DVD is getting created ok. I am using some generic DVD
    +R disks using a Magic Spin 8X DVD burner (burning at 2.4X).

    I have noticed that the DVD gets written from the inside out. Could
    it be that it is harder for my DVD player to track the DVD as it gets
    further from the center? Should I try a different maybe name brand
    DVD media? Maybe a DVD –R instead? Is it time for a new DVD player?

    This is my last hurdle to clear. Everything else is working
    PERFECTLY.

    Again thanks so much for all the great info that got me this far.
     
    James Wilson, Jan 14, 2004
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  2. James Wilson

    Will Dormann Guest


    Use high quality blanks. That makes all the difference.
    Also check www.dvdrhelp.com to check which media is most compatible with
    your player. Ritek discs get high reviews.



    -WD
     
    Will Dormann, Jan 14, 2004
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  3. : To rule out bad media I have burned the same clip on about four
    : different DVDs and they all seem to start to get erratic around the

    Why? TMPGenc DVD Author burns image on hard drive first. Use PowerDVD or WinDVD
    to determine wether there was smth wrong in VOB files. If not, then media is
    where you should look.

    : All DVDs I have created will play fine on my computer using PowerDVD
    : so I think the DVD is getting created ok. I am using some generic DVD
    : +R disks using a Magic Spin 8X DVD burner (burning at 2.4X).
    : I have noticed that the DVD gets written from the inside out. Could
    : it be that it is harder for my DVD player to track the DVD as it gets


    Try to put DVD on your computer and copy EVERYTHING (every file) to your
    hard drive. If you can copy, your media is fine. If not, you have a problem.

    I just had the same problem. I determined that it was a bad media. Thank GOD
    I had all my image on HD so I just reburned it and then checked whether I could
    copy the contents back on hard drive without problems.

    : further from the center? Should I try a different maybe name brand
    : DVD media? Maybe a DVDR instead? Is it time for a new DVD player?

    What can I tell you. I once bought Deep Purple - California Jam DVD. I played
    it in my APEX 703 stand alone DVD player and it played fine until track 7. Then
    it died. I put it on my computer's Pioneer DVD ROM drive. Same thing.
    I exchanged the DVD. Got the new one. Played it on my friend's DVD player.
    Played fine. Played on my APEX 703. Same thing. Track 7 refuses to play.
    Played in Pioneer. Track 7 refuses to play. Then I checked on my Sony DRU-500AX
    DVD burner. It played fine. So yeah, maybe it is your DVD player. Check on
    others.

    --Leonid
     
    Leonid Makarovsky, Jan 14, 2004
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  4. James Wilson

    luminos Guest

    I have noticed that the DVD gets written from the inside out.

    Yes, as is CD.

    I don't follow these questions.
     
    luminos, Jan 14, 2004
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  5. James Wilson

    James Wilson Guest

    You were absolutely right. I bought some Memorex 4x DVD+R blanks and
    everything worked perfectly. I guess you get what you pay for in DVD
    blanks.
     
    James Wilson, Jan 15, 2004
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  6. James Wilson

    Mike T Guest

    For the best picture quality, you should select an average bitrate that will
    nearly fill up the DVD for the length clip you have. You can get a bitrate
    calculator that you set the audio bitrate and the max file size, I use 4.35
    GByte. Do a Google search for bitrate calculators or check in the download
    section of this site- http://www.doom9.org .
    Nero will read the blank DVD specs and set the max burning speed, in this
    case 2.4X for a DVD+R. I would suspect the Mintek player, but you might
    try getting some name brand blanks like Imation or Verbatum or Sony and try
    them. You also might uncheck any of the "relaxed ISO" settings in Nero for
    max DVD compatibility.
    Putting the clip on twice does not change the bitrate, it is determined by
    the encoding settings, it does change how far to the edge of the disk the
    player has to read the DVD.
    yes,yes,yes,maybe,yes

    The Mintek may play DVD-R better.

    Mike T
     
    Mike T, Jan 16, 2004
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