And ANOTHER entry level zoom Nikkor

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by C J Campbell, Mar 6, 2007.

  1. C J Campbell

    C J Campbell Guest

    Yes, we now have a 55-200mm AF-S DX VR f/4-5.6 lens, another goody for the
    D40x/D80 crowd. This makes, what, 4 or 5 lenses of the same basic type? Where
    the heck is the fast glass? The superwide angles? The long VR lenses?
     
    C J Campbell, Mar 6, 2007
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    Tony Polson Guest


    Just be patient, and wait for the "D3". Then you will understand.
     
    Tony Polson, Mar 6, 2007
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  3. I think Nikon is shooting for a baker's dozen with the consumer grade DX
    zooms. Stick with the classic Nikkors and don't worry about it.







    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Mar 6, 2007
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  4. And if it's not FF this will the crossroads where most loyal Nikon shooters
    will seriously look at Canon's offerings. The MK III looks very tempting if
    you still don't want FF.







    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Mar 6, 2007
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  5. Not this loyal Nikon shooter. Anyway, I gather that now the expectation is
    that Nikon will bring out a *near* full frame model with a 1.1x lens factor.
    That should be close enough to keep the FFFs (full frame fanatics) happy,
    unless they just have some sort of religious devotion to the holy 24 x 36
    format and regard even a millimeter less as apostasy.

    I'm staying with DX whatever they do.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Mar 6, 2007
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  6. Probably because this is the "basic type" that's most marketable.

    What percentage of Nikon buyers want to pay the prices for those sorts of
    things? I have no doubt that they'll all be along when Nikon gets to them,
    but I can't blame the company for wanting to go where the money is first.

    The D40 is evidently a great sales success, and no doubt the D40x will be
    also. When those owners start looking for a second lens, it won't be one
    that costs $1500. The new VR version of the 55-200 will probably be perfect
    for virtually all of them, especially at $250 or less.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Mar 6, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    Don't they have a 70-200 f2.8?
     
    RichA, Mar 6, 2007
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    babaloo Guest

    Would that the aesthetic capabilities of most FFFs even remotely matched the
    technical capabilities of the lowliest APS sized sensor . . .
     
    babaloo, Mar 7, 2007
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    I'm staying with Nikon lenses whatever they do. Canon doesn't have anything
    tempting, I don't care about full-frame, and we're no longer at a point
    where there's revolutionary progress every year or two. My camera is almost
    two years old now and I feel no need or desire to upgrade. That new Canon
    has some nifty gimmicks, but nothing that matters terribly. Their new
    high-iso stuff (if it does what they say) is the most interesting thing,
    and that only barely.

    Most of the lenses I've bought in the past couple of years were made before
    there was such a thing as a DSLR. The "age of gear" is over. It's about
    the pictures again, and that's more than fine with me.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Mar 7, 2007
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  10. My sentiments exactly.
     
    Neil Harrington, Mar 7, 2007
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  11. I think he means digital equivalents of the 18/20mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 28mm f1.4,
    35mm f1.4/2, 50mm f1.4/2 in 35mm - or even the compact/light 105/135mm f2.8
    (though the 85mm f1.8 AF is close enough, I guess...). These would be useful if as
    small/light/moderately-priced/good as their equivalents for FF 35mm. Then there is
    the long VR glass...
     
    David Ruether, Mar 7, 2007
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    Matt Clara Guest

    Why do they insist on calling them Nikkors, when Nikon hasn't used that name
    on their lenses in 20 years?
     
    Matt Clara, Mar 14, 2007
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Nikon still uses 'Nikkor' on their web listing and on the boxes, etc. It
    is an odd thing like 'Chicagoan' as if the lenses came from Nikkorville
    :) And even stranger, their enlarging equiptment is called Nikor with
    one K.

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    24mm f/2.8D AF Nikkor
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    17-35mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S Zoom-Nikkor
    18-35mm f/3.5-4.5D ED-IF AF Zoom-Nikkor

    Standard Zoom Lenses
    24-85mm f/2.8-4D IF AF Zoom-Nikkor
    24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF AF-S Zoom-Nikkor
    28-70mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S Zoom-Nikkor
    28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G AF Zoom-Nikkor
    28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D AF Zoom-Nikkor

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    80-200mm f/2.8D ED AF Zoom-Nikkor

    DX Nikkor Lenses for DX Format Digital SLRs
    10.5mm f/2.8G ED AF DX Fisheye-Nikkor
    12-24mm f/4G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor
    18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED II AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor
    18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor
    18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor - NEW!
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    ....the poor teleconverters don't get to be Nikkors though.
     
    Paul Furman, Mar 14, 2007
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    Robert Brace Guest

    Huh??
    What Nikkors have you been checking?
    I just checked out 8 of them and they ALL have the word Nikkor on them.
    The boxes are also labeled with the word Nikkor, except the DX boxes. But
    the DX lenses carry the word Nikkor on them.
    The exception is a Series "E" and the TC's, they are labeled with only the
    Nikon name.
    Bob
     
    Robert Brace, Mar 14, 2007
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  15. Dunno where you got that idea, but every Nikon lens I own is clearly marked
    NIKKOR. That includes the Nikon lenses I bought this year, and not only the
    SLR lenses but also Coolpix compact models and recent "prosumer" models like
    the 8400 and 8800 -- every single one of 'em has the lens identified as
    NIKKOR.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Mar 14, 2007
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  16. I remember the Nikor stainless steel developing tanks, but my impression was
    that those weren't actually Nikon products -- though the name naturally led
    people to think they were.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Mar 14, 2007
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  17. Does anyone know why nearly all lens names end in -or, -on or -ar?
    Like Canon, Nikkor, Rokkor, Fujinon, Takumar, Rubinar, Revuenon,
    Chinon...
     
    Toni Nikkanen, Mar 14, 2007
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Yes I think that's it. I've tried searching ebay for misspelled bargains
    and run into those.
     
    Paul Furman, Mar 14, 2007
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    D.M. Procida Guest

    Probably because it started off back in the 1950s as a way of making
    things sound simultaneously scientific and high-tech (i.e. made up with
    slightly unusual vowel/consonant combinations) and prestigious (i.e.
    vaguely Latin or Classical).

    You can add Prakticar to your list.

    Daniele
     
    D.M. Procida, Mar 14, 2007
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  20. I suspect it's just a convention that started with German lenses many
    decades ago (Elmar, Summitar, Summicron, Biotar, Tessar, Solinar, Apotar,
    Agmar, Xenon, Xenar, Color-Skopar, Radionar, Rodagon, etc., etc.) and was
    adopted by the Japanese and other makers. Why those particular letters I
    have no idea.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Mar 15, 2007
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