ANN: Fantastic Photoshop Plugin Available on Mac/PC

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by Kermit Woodall, May 26, 2004.

  1. ANN: Fantastic Photoshop Plugin Available on Mac/PC

    This must-have PhotoShop plug-in is now available for the Apple Macintosh
    and Windows platforms! Cinematte is an advanced plug-in for PhotoShop that
    can automatically create masks and clipping paths using blue/green screen
    technology. Support for PhotoShop's Layers and Actions allows batch
    processing and multiple layers. Allows blue or green screen background for
    input and can output layer masks, mattes, transparencies and keyed

    A Snap for Photographers

    Photographers love Cinematte because it allows them to composite backgrounds
    in later to suit the client's needs. Cinematte's controls make creating
    mattes and transparencies simple.

    A Must-Have for the Print Industry

    Creating catalogs, brochures or flyers? Cinematte automates what used to be
    a laborious task of creating clipping paths. Now you can simply use
    Cinematte to generate a transparency and either use it directly to composite
    with background layers or turn it into a path with PhotoShop's Paths

    Easy to Use

    A PhotoShop standard interface, with friendly online help, lets you create
    transparencies easily and quickly. Simple, straightforward, and standard
    controls let you work in an integrated real time preview so you can see the
    results of your work instantly!

    Cinematte Features

    .. Macintosh OS 8.6 through OS X compatible or any version of Windows
    .. Works with PhotoShop Elements through PhotoShop CS and JASC PaintShop Pro
    .. Large preview mode option for detail work
    .. Uses and supports PhotoShop layers and Actions
    .. Totally resolution independent - works on any size RGB image up to 20mb+
    .. Supports both blue and green screen backgrounds
    .. Sophisticated color-spill algorithms
    .. Foreground color protection keeps your colors accurate
    .. Multiple output options for keyed foregrounds, mattes and more


    Cinematte is available immediately at a direct price of $189.95 plus
    shipping and handling. You can order by calling (804) 282-1157 or order
    online from our web site at
    Kermit Woodall, May 26, 2004
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    Brian Guest

    Boycott all companies who use SPAM to advertise their products.
    Brian, May 26, 2004
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    Duncan Allan Guest

    Agreed, especially when they send them to countries other than their origin!

    Duncan Allan, May 26, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    This is not spam. It is perfectly on topic. It isn't like they are selling
    chicken heads or something. It is a Photoshop product in a Photoshop

    On the other hand this is not their first posting for this product. Once is
    definitely enough. At least per version/upgrade.

    Guest, May 27, 2004
  5. Its an unsolicited commercial...its SPAM. It's cross-posted all over the
    place. It's not true either. Over and over again they claim to be a leader
    in computer graphics. ..but who has ever heard of them? Not me.
    Gene Palmiter, May 27, 2004
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    Brian Guest

    This is not spam.

    It absolutely *is* spam... unsolicited, uncompensated advertising on
    Usenet is spam. If they are a reputable company with a quality
    commercial product that they wish to sell for a profit then they should
    pay for advertising like everyone else; allowing these cretins to invade
    Usenet is only setting a terrible precedent, and pretty soon
    commercialism will be everywhere.
    Brian, May 27, 2004
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    Tom Thomas Guest

    I'm not a fan of spam by any means; however, you may wish to note that
    the official Usenet charter for
    specifically permits the posting of announcements for new,
    Photoshop-related products.
    Tom Thomas, May 27, 2004
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    Brian Guest

    I'm not a fan of spam by any means; however, you may wish to note that
    How very unfortunate. I have to say that I would have voted against such
    a clause were I involved in creating the forum (which I wasn't, of course).

    Despite my being an unapologetic capitalist I cannot help but feel that
    overt commercialism is invading every single facet of our lives; where
    does the line get drawn?
    Brian, May 27, 2004
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    patrick Guest

    That's true. However, the obviously phony subject line is just too cute and
    puts in the realm of spam for me. "Hey, Ann! Have I got a hot deal for you!"
    Pardom me while I retch. . . . patrick
    patrick, May 27, 2004
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    Tom Thomas Guest

    Perhaps, knowing what you know today; however, the group was chartered
    at a time when few people would have envisioned how grossly
    commercialized (and concurrently uncivilized) the Internet would
    As with most facets of life, we each draw our own line.
    Unfortunately, our lines sooner or later are stepped upon by someone
    who has drawn the line at a different point. C'est la vie?
    Tom Thomas, May 27, 2004
  11. I can't help but feel that if someone came on and wrote that they have
    created a new plug-in for chromakeys....they would not be attacked. That is
    information...the rest is advertisement.
    Gene Palmiter, May 27, 2004
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    edjh Guest

    ANN: is short for ANNOUNCEMENT and is quite commonly used. When you see
    it you know it's probably an ad and can ignore it.
    edjh, May 27, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    Oh, well just because you haven't heard of them makes it bogus. Well I have
    never heard of you, does that make you bogus. As I said posting such a
    message once is fine. It is a Photoshop product in a Photoshop newsgroup,
    commercial or not.

    If you have a problem with this then you should have a problem with Joe Smoe
    posting his web site address to a site that has ads on it (place by him or
    not) that sells anything. Commercial is commercial.

    In this case I do have a problem because they did cross post, which by
    itself isn't a problem, but that couple with the constant reposting is. Any
    one that is interested in the product would have already since the thing
    with the first post. Posting it over and over is needless and anything.

    Guest, May 29, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    It gets draw by complaining to them. Not because the posted the message, but
    because they kept on posting it. While this type of message is allowed there
    was no need to keep reposting. In fact had they only posted it once and even
    went to the trouble of posting to each group separately I doubt anyone would
    have had a problem. At the very least and the very most it is was poor
    judgment on their part. Send them an e-mail suggesting that if they want to
    not be hated to be more sensible in their posting habits.

    No need to be mean or rude. They just need help understanding.

    Guest, May 29, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    You can also filter it out. I filter out attachments in newsgroups, as I
    don't trust. luckily I have the brains to know that when someone announces
    something I can either read it out skip it. I already knew what this plug-in
    was and I have a good idea of who uses it (whose does the most blue and
    green screening?) This is not a product for most people, how many people
    have the lighting and blue or green screens setup for such work at home. Not

    Some could also argue that the bull shit Adobe spouts out about Photoshop is
    a bunch of crap to. Lets face Photoshop is starting to fall behind other
    programs on the market. Feature wise, speed wise and in the ever growing
    number of bugs and the so far total lack of a patch to correct the bugs.

    If you don't like these posts, then filter them out. Or don't read them.

    Guest, May 29, 2004
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    Vic Guest

    STOP these advertisements. They are SPAM at best. I hope your software
    finds it way to Kaaza!
    Vic, May 30, 2004
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    David Haley Guest

    No intention to start a flame-war here. I just invested money into buying
    Photoshop, so it's not pleasant to hear that it's falling behind; I'd heard the
    contrary from people I consider knowledgeable in the area. What would you have
    suggested instead?


    David Haley, May 31, 2004
  18. As a matter of fact...chances are if they are a leader in computer
    graphic...I have heard of them. I am not claiming that they have heard of
    me....but the odds are very good that I have been reading trade magazines
    since before they would have gotten a mention in one.
    Gene Palmiter, May 31, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    David, don't worry Photoshop is good, I guess my big complaint is that in a
    lot of ways it is behind the times, it is also full of half completed

    In the behind the times categories we have...

    Filters, even the basic and most useful of the lot that haven't been updated
    in years.

    We are still lacking a customizable interface so that you can create a
    completely custom work environment that works for you and save it for use
    later. Just about every other image editor does this.

    Full built-in scripting support, with editor and basic protections for the
    authors scripts. Instead what we have is a poorly done scripting plug-in
    with poor documentation, no editor, and only one of the supported languages
    having direct menu access support in Photoshop and no protection of any kind
    for the authors scripts. Mean while programs from Jasc and Corel have had
    these capabilities for years.

    Filter layers. Adobe says they can't be done, but they have been available
    in other programs for years including Canvas and Adobe's own video editing

    There are others in this category. On the half done features arena we have.

    Natural media brushes that are some of the suckiest I have ever seen. If
    real watercolor brushed looked like what Photoshop renders artists would
    have gouged out their eyes years ago. Not to mention that Photoshop isn't
    even smart enough to tell a pen from a mouse and turn off the pressure
    sensitive stuff for mouse users so you have to go do this each time you
    change brushes. This gets old fast and why you have to do this is unless you
    turn those things off you can paint with a mouse.

    The new Filter Gallery, is one big waste of screen space. It doesn't support
    all of the filters in Photoshop. It allows you to layer them, but doesn't
    have opacity or blending mode controls. You also can't turn the damn thing
    off when you are fed up with it, it uses a generic image to show what the
    filter will look like. Overall, a half done mess.

    File browser. While this does seem to be getting a little better with each
    new version, it should have been done right and finished by now. It is still
    far too slow, and is still far too limited in the file formats it supports
    and is far too limited in features.

    The history palette. Instead of just giving us multiple undo's which is what
    was asked for they give us the history palette, but only half of it. You
    can't save your history steps with your image, it is limited in the number
    of steps you can have, you can't turn the history in an action and it can
    only be edited linearly. Again, another great feature but only half done.

    Actions. Awesome idea, but only half complete. There are now logic commands
    (if/then/else statements). No editor for changing your actions. No way to
    password protect them. They need to be made more like a macro language like
    in Word, etc. You need to be able to password protect the editing of them
    and you need a way to edit them without having to recreate them.

    Again, the list of half done features goes on and on. You mention any of
    this to Adobe and their canned answer is that it can't be done. Which is
    bull because these things and more have been done in other programs like
    Corel Photo-Paint, Jasc PaintShop Pro and even Painter which they had the
    chance to buy but didn't. That would have really give you nice natural media
    painting tools in Photoshop.

    Guest, May 31, 2004
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    David Haley Guest

    Well, thanks for your answers. The bad news for me is that a lot of that really
    does sound like it would have been useful. I have to admit that the file browser
    seemed awfully slow (it eats up all my cpu/memory, it's faster to open up
    explorer and go to thumbnail mode, and drag the files into photoshop), in
    addition to the filter gallery being incomplete.

    The good news is that most of the concerns seem to be for somebody more advanced
    than myself. :) Then again the goal is to become more proficient so maybe I will
    start caring about all that. The other piece of good news is that I bought the
    student version for "only" $300, so I guess it's less painful than if I had
    spent the full $700 or however much it costs for the normal version. As far as I
    can tell, the student version is fully featured, but just has 'Education' on the
    splash screen.

    As a programmer, I dare suggest that perhaps what they mean by "it can't be
    done" is more like "our software design is becoming antiquated, we're having
    trouble with the half-arse port from Mac to Windows, so to add that stuff would
    mean a complete rewrite of the software that we don't feel like doing." To be
    honest I was a little miffed to see the Mac Aqua interface in my PC program. :/
    Not that I don't like the Mac OS/X visuals (quite the contrary, in fact); I just
    don't want to see them in a PC program! I suspect that the PC version is slow in
    part because it's loading up some kind of Mac-to-PC library that makes the
    porting job easier. Which would explain perhaps why all the scrollbars and stuff
    look like the Mac OS, and don't use the Windows environment.

    In any case I appreciate your explanations, thanks for going into that for the
    novice Photoshop user. :)

    David Haley, Jun 1, 2004
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