Another "where is this" post

Discussion in 'UK Photography' started by Paul Giverin, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. Paul Giverin

    Paul Giverin Guest

    And as the person who took the photo, I do know where it is, unlike the
    guy a few months ago who posted a picture of a house somewhere in the
    world and wanted someone to identify it ;)

    Anyway, this is probably far to easy for the distinguished and
    knowledgeable members of this group. In the link below, there is a shot
    taken at the location of a very famous photo from yesteryear. What is
    the exact location and who was the original photographer?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5553804265/

    No prizes but the first to get it right can look smug for a week.
     
    Paul Giverin, Mar 24, 2011
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    Alan Wrigley Guest

    The car registration is a bit of a giveaway.

    Alan
     
    Alan Wrigley, Mar 24, 2011
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    You should have given the photo a different name, just to make it less
    easy for those who couldn't remember the location of you-know-who's
    original.
     
    Peter Twydell, Mar 25, 2011
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    Rob Morley Guest

    Me too. :) I didn't remember the photographer's name or the location,
    but found it in a couple of clicks thanks to Google and Wikipedia (the
    search terms didn't include puddle, man or jump though).
     
    Rob Morley, Mar 25, 2011
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    Perhaps you just had a decisive moment...
     
    Geoff Berrow, Mar 25, 2011
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  6. LOL! I have to say I wasn't sure - but I have a photographic memory!
    (i.e. I remember photos!)

    However all credit to Geoff, as I was surprised when I did check today
    that the view is still available!

    Mike
    --
    Michael J Davis

    http://www.fluidr.com/photos/watchman/

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    "I never have taken a picture I've intended.
    They're always better or worse."
    Diane Arbus
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    Michael J Davis, Mar 25, 2011
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    I was impressed. I remembered the original of course, but would never
    have got it from that photo.
     
    Geoff Berrow, Mar 25, 2011
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    Paul Giverin Guest

    But apart from the guy and the puddle, nothing much has changed. The
    station is the same, the clock is the same and even the railings are the
    original ones. Given that its 79 years on from the original photo, I
    think its amazing that so little has changed.
     
    Paul Giverin, Mar 25, 2011
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    They knew how to make railings in those days and didn't cut them all
    down to make munitions. :-}

    Question:

    Did Henri intend that shot to work out like that or was it just a
    fluke?
     
    Geoff Berrow, Mar 25, 2011
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  10. Paul Giverin

    Paul Giverin Guest

    And as we all know, they didn't actually make munitions from the
    railings they cut down in this country.
    I once heard another famous photographer describe HCB's philosophy as
    "into this space, something will come". Another of his famous shots is
    this one:-
    http://photohistory.jeffcurto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/cartier-bres
    son-hyeres.jpg

    I don't think he could see the cyclist coming but he knew that if he
    waited there, something would come into frame. I reckon it was the same
    with the puddle jumper.
     
    Paul Giverin, Mar 25, 2011
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    Yes, a nothing shot without the cyclist. I'm not above doing that sort
    of thing myself

    http://www.4theweb.co.uk/pics/ip4.JPG
    I understand that. I just wonder if the fluke was catching the jumper
    at the split second before his heel hit the water. It would have been
    less powerful six inches higher or lower.
     
    Geoff Berrow, Mar 25, 2011
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    Paul Giverin Guest

    Its a nice shot but it doesn't give impression of capturing the moment
    like the HCB shots do.
    Well he wasn't able to get 8 frames a second out of his Leica but who's
    to say he didn't shoot 8 guys jumping across that puddle that morning
    before getting one at just the right moment?
     
    Paul Giverin, Mar 25, 2011
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    Rob Morley Guest

    I read somewhere that it was staged - HCB set up the shot then told the
    guy when to jump.
     
    Rob Morley, Mar 25, 2011
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    Paul Giverin Guest

    I suppose that's possible. A lot of Doisneau's famous shots were
    staged.
     
    Paul Giverin, Mar 25, 2011
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    No, and I wouldn't be so bold as to compare myself with Cartier
    Bresson, but I have shots slightly before and shots slightly after.
    The position of the people is crucial and they were only there for a
    brief moment. I also like the position of the dogs far right. It's
    something you don't see at first.
    Because it would have taken quite a while for the water to become
    mirror flat again?
     
    Geoff Berrow, Mar 26, 2011
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    Rob Morley Guest

    To me Doisneau's work mostly looks like stills from old movies, whether
    because of the lighting or subject matter or something else I don't
    know, there's just something not very journalistic about them.
     
    Rob Morley, Mar 26, 2011
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    Paul Giverin Guest

    Don't be silly, he could have used the healing brush tool in Photoshop
    to sort that out.
     
    Paul Giverin, Mar 26, 2011
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    Paul Giverin Guest

    I agree entirely. A lot of Doisneau's stuff could be described as
    artistic whereas most of HCB's stuff was indeed journalistic.

    I've got HCB's "À Propos de Paris " and Doisneau's "Paris" books and the
    are both wonderful collections but I would say that most of the shots in
    the Doisneau book are staged. There is even an attempt to recreate HCB's
    puddle jumper with a series of shots called "Jumping the gutters- Les
    Halles.
     
    Paul Giverin, Mar 26, 2011
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