Ansel arrives 6/8

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Robert Coe, May 18, 2012.

  1. Robert Coe

    otter Guest

    Those are all over the internet (Canon 24-105):
    http://www.shop4tech.com/user.htm?go=view_item&id=9457&r=183

    There's also Nike 24-70, and Canon 70-200 versions.
     
    otter, Jun 10, 2012
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  2. Robert Coe

    Robert Coe Guest

    On 2012-06-10 10:31:44 -0700, Alan Browne
    : <> said:
    :
    : > On 2012-06-09 16:55 , Savageduck wrote:
    : >> On 2012-06-09 12:33:38 -0700, Alan Browne
    : >> <> said:
    : >>
    : >>> On 2012-06-09 15:21 , Robert Coe wrote:
    : >
    : >>>> I agree that it would be extremely difficult; you presumably couldn't
    : >>>> dare to even use a safelight until the development was nearly complete.
    : >>>> But I do think it said the negative, not the print.
    : >>>
    : >>> Safelights will fog undeveloped negatives, so forget that.
    : >>
    : >> You have to go back to Adams and his implementation of the "Zone system"
    : >> which starts with visualization of the scene, metering, the use of sheet
    : >> film and compensating for desired "visualized" effects during developing
    : >> the negative. This is pure darkroom developing of the negative using
    : >> chemistry and time, no light/safelight involved.
    : >
    : > I didn't mention safelight in that context just that one is not used
    : > when developing _negatives_ as the _negative_ will __fog__. Safelights
    : > are for working __prints__ (and even then they can fog given enough
    : > time or intensity, just not as quickly as __negatives__.
    : >
    : > The discussion was about Adams doing selective negative development
    : > over the area of the film. eg: one portion of the film receiving more
    : > time/chem/temp than other areas. This would be difficult in any
    : > context.
    : >
    : > (I'm well aware of the principles (and most of the practices) of zone
    : > photography)
    :
    : Fine, fine, fine.
    : So we were on the same page all along?

    So who isn't on that page? Me? I was the one who mentioned a safelight, but
    only to say that it WOULDN'T have helped Adams with his "zone" development of
    a (presumably panchromatic) negative. So how did the argument get started?

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Jun 10, 2012
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  3. Robert Coe

    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : > An unexpected highlight of the evening was that the museum store was selling
    : > coffee mugs in the shape of a lens, complete with a cover that exactly
    : > resembles a lens cap. We got the last two, but maybe they'll receive another
    : > shipment soon!  ;^)
    :
    : Those are all over the internet (Canon 24-105):
    : http://www.shop4tech.com/user.htm?go=view_item&id=9457&r=183
    :
    : There's also Nike 24-70, and Canon 70-200 versions.

    I have a Canon 24-105, and the mug doesn't match it. The mug is an "Into Focus
    310 ml". :^)

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Jun 10, 2012
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