Any recommendations for a DSLR for professional wedding photography?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by lisa.ireland, Dec 9, 2004.

  1. lisa.ireland

    lisa.ireland Guest

    I'm looking for a DSLR for wedding photography. I haven't started in
    the business yet and am building up a portfolio (I'm based in Ireland
    BTW). I usually shoot with a Nikon F80/N80 film SLR. This would be my
    back-up camera when I start professionally. I only have the 50mm 1.8
    lens for it. I have a 28-105 zoom, but it's scratched and needs
    repairs. So I'm not wedded to any particular brand since I don't own
    many lenses. The Nikon D70 has been recommended, along with the
    expensive VR zooms. Should I stick with Nikon, or is there a better
    choice for wedding photography? I would want to do a mix of traditional
    group shoots (this is Ireland...traditional) and some
    photojournalistic/artsy shots. Please tell me the pros and cons of each
    recommendation. I would like to buy a zoom and the camera for around
    $2000 or so (since I'm starting out and would have to probably upgrade
    a camera body in the future).
    Thanks!

    Lisa
     
    lisa.ireland, Dec 9, 2004
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    Ryadia Guest

    I think you already know the answer, Lisa. Nikon. A nice choice too would be
    Minolta's new DSLR but this is probably more expensive than your budget. The
    Minolta lenses are cheaper because the focus motor and stabaliser is in the
    camera. Don't concentrate too much on sensor size. 5 Megapixel and over is
    fine. You can get sharp, clear enlargements to 16"x20" from any DSLR now.

    The problem with Canon DSLRs is that to achieve the same functionality as
    Nikon, the cameras become unreliable. Whatever you do, don't part with the
    film body because DSLRs are not as reliable as 35mm SLRs. I have a 20D and
    it is too unreliable to use as my only camera. If I had my time again, I'd
    go the Minolta.

    Doug
     
    Ryadia, Dec 9, 2004
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    YAG-ART Guest

    Canon EOS 1DsMark2
     
    YAG-ART, Dec 9, 2004
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    Tom Nelson Guest

    Several wedding shooters of my acquaintance use the Fujifilm S2 Pro. In
    the USA, the S2 and a 24-85mm AF-S Nikkor-G would run you about $2150.
    Keep the film Nikon as backup.
    Tom Nelson
    Tom Nelson Photography
     
    Tom Nelson, Dec 9, 2004
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    Steven Wandy Guest

    By any chance did you read the price range of the OP???
     
    Steven Wandy, Dec 10, 2004
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    Tony Hall Guest

    Interesting comment, please could you explain your reasoning.

    Many thanks.

    Tony
     
    Tony Hall, Dec 10, 2004
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    Bob Hatch Guest

    Canon 20D, 28 - 135 mm IS Lens, 550 or 580 EX flash. This will jump a bit
    out of your budget but will do everything you want plus. My bet is that
    within a short period of time the 20D will become the primary camera and the
    film cameras will become the backup.

    Once you get the digital learn to custom white balance and learn how to use
    the flash for fill with bright backgrounds.
     
    Bob Hatch, Dec 10, 2004
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    Will D. Guest

    I think I'd give them all a try. Handle them and see which ones make
    sense to your hands. Reason is that you're going to have to produce
    with whatever you get, and I doubt that the differences between Canon
    and Nikon are enough to be more important than what feels and works the
    best for you.

    When you shoot people, wherever they are, you're working with a moving
    target. Expressions, body positions, event timing and all that are
    important, "decisive moments" or something like that. So one of the
    things you should consider is shutter lag. How quickly does the camera
    respond? Half press for auto-focus... how does that feel with the
    various cameras you try?

    The balance of the rig in battle dress, with lens and shade and battery
    pack and all that, has a lot to do with whether or not it works for you.
    Guys sometimes tend to muscle stuff to make it work, so weight
    distribution might not be important for them. I can do that too, but
    I've found that doing unnecessary work doesn't make for the best
    results.

    How about the controls? Are they laid out so that they make sense, or
    are you going to wind up constantly fiddling to get what you want.
    Those are the kinds of things I'd be thinking about, if I were you.

    HTH

    Will D.
     
    Will D., Dec 10, 2004
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    Skip M Guest

    Besides the budget that the OP mentioned, this camera is overkill for
    weddings.
     
    Skip M, Dec 10, 2004
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    Skip M Guest

    My wife and I have hammered away at 8 weddings plus sundry other shoots
    (about 5000 images, each) since we bought our 20Ds for the purpose. The
    only unreliability issue I ran into was with a CF card, not the camera, at
    least since the 1.0.5 upgrade. But, after I turned off the "sleep mode" on
    the cameras, I only had one lockup before the upgrade, my wife, none.
    The Canon 20D exceeds the functionality of the Nikons, and, most feel,
    leaves nothing to be desired in reliability. I've carried my D30 as a back
    up for 4 months now, and it's never left the bag, nor has my wife's √Član or
    my 1n that we used as backups, too.
     
    Skip M, Dec 10, 2004
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    Ron Zeis Guest

    All the recommendations are good. You also may want to look at the Olympus
    E1, it is considered to be a professional camera. Many will question this;
    however it has a professional construction, with water resistant gaskets all
    around. It is only 5 MP, but that shouldn't be a problem unless your
    looking to do a great amount of prints larger than 16 X 20. A number of
    wedding photographers used the E20 in the past and have upgraded to the E1.
    The new EVOLT(E300) is probably not for you. It has 8 MP, but is considered
    a consumer grade SLR, and is probably not rugged enough. Also it is not
    available yet. It's supposed to be released this month, but no ones has
    seen it.
    Go to your local Camera shop and try them all out and find the one that
    feels right to you.
    Ron
     
    Ron Zeis, Dec 10, 2004
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    Ryadia Guest

    I've carried my D30 as a back
    Some people are just born lucky I guess.
     
    Ryadia, Dec 10, 2004
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    Ryadia Guest

    The contributors to this thread are all dyslexic. They can't read, won't
    read or don't bother to read the original post. They just fire off a comment
    here and there in the hope it might be relevant.

    Fancy someone walking into a car dealer:
    Customer: Hi, I've got $5k in my pocket and need a car.
    Dealer: Well come on over here my lovely and feast your eyes on this Roller
    for $50k+!!!
    Same deal with people recommending cameras, I imagine.

    Doug
     
    Ryadia, Dec 10, 2004
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    Ken Ellis Guest

    Hi Lisa

    Canon 20d with 18-55 zoomkit = $1499, 1gig mem card = $60
    a flash unit and tax should take you up to around 2k ..US anyway.

    D70 is probably more bang for buck all around.

    grandmum was irish - (smile)
    rgds

    Ken
     
    Ken Ellis, Dec 10, 2004
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  15. You're comparing two completely different things. The 20D is beyond
    the D70 in many respects. The D70 should be compared to the Canon
    Digital Rebel. The proper comparison for the 20D would be the Nikon
    D100 which is lacking in comparison.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Dec 10, 2004
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    Skip M Guest

    Or unlucky... ;-)
    Your experience, though undoubtedly valid, isn't enough to label the camera
    as unreliable. There are many photographers out there with the same camera
    and no problems. Besides my wife and myself, I personally know 4 others
    with the same camera and with pretty much the same experience we've had.
     
    Skip M, Dec 10, 2004
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    Skip M Guest

    As an addendum to my reply, when you say "Canon DSLRs" you also include the
    1D, 1D mkII, 1Ds, 1Ds mkII and Rebel/300D, among others, and those cameras
    you've not had experience with, nor are thay known to have reliability
    problems, even to the extent of the 20D. There are a lot of Canon DSLRs out
    there besides the 20D...
     
    Skip M, Dec 10, 2004
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    KenH Guest

    Have you got the other end of the process sorted out?
    If you havent got your digital darkroom set up then whatever camera is
    recommended is going to be degraded by commercial processing unless you are
    very lucky. Do you want your fledgling business to depend on it?
    You need to allow $500-1000 for your darkroom and printer.
     
    KenH, Dec 10, 2004
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  19. No you don't, depending on where you live, or if you can afford the time
    lag of using over-the-net processors.

    Certainly there are many digital processors out there who will degrade
    the product, but some are excellent.

    You raise an excellent point, however.
     
    John McWilliams, Dec 10, 2004
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  20. Any recommendations as to which is which?

    Shutterfly?
    Ofoto?
    Snapfish?
    Other?
     
    Michelle Steiner, Dec 10, 2004
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