Any tiny camcorders that use a hard drive yet?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Tim, Aug 25, 2004.

  1. Tim

    Tim Guest

    I don't see why someone can not make a camcorder with one of those
    40gb MP3 player hard drives. My Canon SD110 camera was just stolen and
    thinking about maybe going camcorder if I can find one small enough.
    Must fit in the cargo pocket or my travel shorts.
     
    Tim, Aug 25, 2004
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  2. Tim

    AnthonyR Guest

    Tim,
    I don't think anyone makes that type product yet, but you know it's a great
    idea. For one thing a 60 min DV tape
    is usually to small for an entire wedding ceremony, and I often miss a few
    minutes doing a tape change during long ceremonies, although I found ways
    around that problem.
    But it would be great for vacations or anytime you want a lot of storage, a
    40gb HD would easily hold about 3 hours at full DV quality and so much more
    if it stored it at MPG2 or MPG4, it should offer a choice in a switch.
    And image a 200 gb HD in a camera? WOW!

    But there are lots of products that would benefit by replacing smaller
    removable memory with cheaper and more storage of little hard drives. Like
    digital camera's for pictures with a tiny 4 gb harddrive like is in the iPod
    mini?
    Lots of stuff would benefit.
    Then we can just transfer directly to PC for editing, and then to DVD for
    distribution and finally to a DV Tape as a backup medium. I guess they would
    sell lots of DV tape records that fit into PC slots then also.

    AnthonyR
     
    AnthonyR, Aug 25, 2004
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  3. The main issue is battery life for small devices.
    Audio can get away with it because they can read a 200 to 500 faster then real-time.
    DV require over 200 time more bandwidth then a 128kbits mp3. So the storage device
    will be used constantly and battery life would be very short in a small device.

    Now, a large professional camera would be cool with a 2.5 HD slot.
    Right now people use 1394 external HD recorder, or laptop based recorder.

    Stephan Schaem
    www.seriousmagic.com
     
    Stephan Schaem, Aug 25, 2004
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  4. Tim

    David Chien Guest

    Nope.
     
    David Chien, Aug 26, 2004
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  5. Tim

    David Chien Guest

    Closest you'll come today for a digicam + camcorder are the Sony T1/W1
    series with 30fps 640x480 captures, any other digicam that'll do the
    same or similar, and the MPEG-4 solid-state camcorder/digicams such as
    the Sanyo Xacti C4 series (http://www.sanyo-dsc.com/dsc/c4/spe.html).

    Sadly, none of these use a CF/Microdrive, so no super-long record times.
     
    David Chien, Aug 26, 2004
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  6. Tim

    Moon Shooter Guest

    Some Digital Camera like FuJi s7000 can take 2.2GB microdrive and shoot
    640x480 30fps Mono audio for 30 minutes.


    =>I don't see why someone can not make a camcorder with one of those
    =>40gb MP3 player hard drives. My Canon SD110 camera was just stolen and
    =>thinking about maybe going camcorder if I can find one small enough.
    =>Must fit in the cargo pocket or my travel shorts.
     
    Moon Shooter, Aug 28, 2004
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