Any Windows program to create iMovie compatible movies?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by SMS, Sep 11, 2007.

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    SMS Guest

    At my kids schools they use iBooks to make iMovies, transferring the
    video from digital camcorders over 1394. They want to work on the movies
    at home, but almost no one has a Mac at home. They've tried using
    Windows Movie Maker and converting the files to .MOV files with a
    third-party program but the quality of the conversion isn't very good.

    I was looking at Mediaworks, which includes a Mac and Windows version
    on the CD. Their web site isn't very good, but it appears to me that the
    Windows version can export to Quicktime format. Is the QuickTime format
    the same as iMovie? Could iMovie be used to edit clips saved in .MOV
    format on Mediaworks, and could Mediaworks be used to edit clips saved
    on iMovie?
    SMS, Sep 11, 2007
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    Scubajam Guest

    I can't help with MediaWorks, never used the program, nor a Mac.
    However, for getting your Mac mov file into a PC, try Ulead Video
    Studio 11. There's a free 30 day trial with full features, not
    crippled at all like some trials. Make sure you transfer your Mac mov
    file as a data file. Just Copy file to a CD or DVD as data (don't
    burn a video DVD). Video Studio is a very good beginning program with
    many features and the abiity to create DVD's, and work with files of
    different formats, even combining formats. Now, you have introduced a
    different problem, and that is EDITING on the Mac, then transferring
    to PC, edit some more, then back again. In that case, you will have
    to Create a new mov video movie each time as the raw file does not
    include your edits. That means rendering on the mac, then transfer
    new mov file to pc, edit, render again, transfer new mov file to mac.
    Each render will introduce loss in quality. One or two shouldn't be
    too bad, but it depends. One huge issue with renders and quality, is
    to maintain the EXACT same settings as your original clip. That is
    for example, 720 x 480; 6000 vbr, 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio, etc.
    Changing any of these will create more loss with every render. And
    some programs don't give you the numbers, but instead use terms like
    High Quality, etc. Then it's hard, but there are programs that will
    tell you the properties of a clip. You'll have to find the programs,
    then test the clips, then render on each system, then work to find the
    settings that match exactly. Working with video is very time
    consuming, much more difficult than first appears, if you want to do a
    good job. Then any change or something out of the ordinary, and the
    problems and learning curve goes wayyyyy up. Like simply moving from
    Mac to PC and editing on each and sharing the edited files. Sounds
    easy. But it isn't, as you are finding out. Another way is to create
    a video DVD on the Mac, use Video Studio 11 to Capture the DVD as mpg
    file (instead of mov), then edit. I don't recommend making more than
    two video DVD's in mid project as mpg is also a lossy codec and every
    render will degrade quality somewhat. How much depends much on the
    settings and the software. The very best way is to capture from
    camcorder to an avi file instead of mov. Edit, render, and move the
    avi file back and forth. There is some loss in rendering avi files as
    it is a compressed codec, but not near as much as mov or mpg. You can
    go 9 or 10 renders before usually seeing some loss of quality. But,
    avi files are 13 gigs/hour, so an hour won't fit on a DVD as data to
    transfer back and forth. I don't know if a Mac will allow you to work
    with avi files, but it's much less loss than mov.
    Scubajam, Sep 11, 2007
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    SMS Guest

    Scubajam wrote:

    Well I guess the easy solution is to let them do all the editing at
    school. They've set it up so you can just bring in a MiniDV tape and
    transfer it (prior to that my daughter was taking by $1000 prosumer
    camcorder to school which made me very nervous). They let them stay late
    to use the iBooks at the middle school.

    If only Jobs' iPhone 33% price cut had been accompanied by a 33% price
    cut on all the Macs!
    SMS, Sep 11, 2007
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    neseho Guest

    neseho, Sep 13, 2007
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    SMS Guest

    SMS, Sep 13, 2007
  6. Isn't the Apple Quicktime Player "Pro" edition supposed to
    be able to do this conversion? If Apple doesn't do it right,
    then nobody does. The price is extremely modest. And
    I've had good luck with the AVS video converter.
    Richard Crowley, Sep 13, 2007
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