Anybody else having problem with Thumbnails from D300 in WinXP?

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  1. Norm Dresner

    Norm Dresner Guest

    Computer is a new Dell Precision 3400 with dual core Pentium and 2 GB RAM.
    OS is manufacturer's load of XP with SP2 and all of the latest updates since
    delivery last month.

    Camera is a Nikon D300 shooting in 14-bit Raw plus JPG. Sometimes -- and
    only in some folders -- Windows Explorer barfs when asked to display
    thumbnails. If it fails in a folder, it will fail everytime in that folder
    so there's obviously something about the pictures in that folder that kills
    it. BUT ... when I view the same folders from another (but older) WinXP
    over the network with thumbnails, there's no problem and the images of the
    JPG in the folder are displayed properly.

    What possible incompatibility could exist between a folder of digital
    pictures, about half .NEF and the other half .JPG and one WinXP computer but
    not another?

    TIA
    Norm
     
    Norm Dresner, May 8, 2008
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    me Guest

    You are aware there is a whole Nikon Support database to query before you
    post a question here?

    http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bi...2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXhw&p_li=&p_topview=1
     
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    C J Campbell Guest

    What do you mean, "barfs?" Refuses to display images? Crashes? Blue
    screen of death?

    Can you move the images to another folder and have them display
    properly in that folder?
     
    C J Campbell, May 9, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    If you set folder options to display hidden & system files AND
    EXTENSIONS! there is a thumbs.db file or something like that which you
    can try deleting so it can rebuild... or move the files to another
    folder & delete that folder.

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  5. Norm Dresner

    Norm Dresner Guest

    | On Thu, 08 May 2008 21:31:04 GMT, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems "Norm
    |
    | >Computer is a new Dell Precision 3400 with dual core Pentium and 2 GB
    RAM.
    | >OS is manufacturer's load of XP with SP2 and all of the latest updates
    since
    | >delivery last month.
    | >
    | >Camera is a Nikon D300 shooting in 14-bit Raw plus JPG. Sometimes -- and
    | >only in some folders -- Windows Explorer barfs when asked to display
    | >thumbnails. If it fails in a folder, it will fail everytime in that
    folder
    | >so there's obviously something about the pictures in that folder that
    kills
    | >it. BUT ... when I view the same folders from another (but older) WinXP
    | >over the network with thumbnails, there's no problem and the images of
    the
    | >JPG in the folder are displayed properly.
    | >
    | >What possible incompatibility could exist between a folder of digital
    | >pictures, about half .NEF and the other half .JPG and one WinXP computer
    but
    | >not another?
    |
    | You are aware there is a whole Nikon Support database to query before you
    | post a question here?
    |
    |
    http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bi...2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXhw&p_li=&p_topview=1

    Yes, I'm aware of it -- and of the patch that it installs. It was put on
    the older system when I bought my D70 3 years ago and when I set up the new
    one last month -- on the same network -- I thought I had copied all of the
    installed patches from the older one. Apparently I hadn't.
    Thanks
    Norm
     
    Norm Dresner, May 9, 2008
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  6. Norm Dresner

    Norm Dresner Guest

    |
    | || On Thu, 08 May 2008 21:31:04 GMT, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems "Norm
    ||
    || >Computer is a new Dell Precision 3400 with dual core Pentium and 2 GB
    | RAM.
    || >OS is manufacturer's load of XP with SP2 and all of the latest updates
    | since
    || >delivery last month.
    || >
    || >Camera is a Nikon D300 shooting in 14-bit Raw plus JPG. Sometimes --
    and
    || >only in some folders -- Windows Explorer barfs when asked to display
    || >thumbnails. If it fails in a folder, it will fail everytime in that
    | folder
    || >so there's obviously something about the pictures in that folder that
    | kills
    || >it. BUT ... when I view the same folders from another (but older) WinXP
    || >over the network with thumbnails, there's no problem and the images of
    | the
    || >JPG in the folder are displayed properly.
    || >
    || >What possible incompatibility could exist between a folder of digital
    || >pictures, about half .NEF and the other half .JPG and one WinXP computer
    | but
    || >not another?
    ||
    || You are aware there is a whole Nikon Support database to query before you
    || post a question here?
    ||
    ||
    |
    http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bi...2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXhw&p_li=&p_topview=1
    |
    | Yes, I'm aware of it -- and of the patch that it installs. It was put on
    | the older system when I bought my D70 3 years ago and when I set up the
    new
    | one last month -- on the same network -- I thought I had copied all of the
    | installed patches from the older one. Apparently I hadn't.
    | Thanks
    | Norm

    Based on a suggestion in response to a similar question I asked in a Windows
    XP newsgroup, the solution was not the NEF viewer patch which worked on my
    D70 images but predates the D300 and can't handle those.

    The problem was the file association for the NEF files. On the computer
    without a problem the association was to the Microsoft RAW viewer which was
    smart enough to recognize that it couldn't handle D300 raw files and doesn't
    try. On the computer with a problem, the association was with CaptureNX and
    there may be an incompatibility there instead.

    The problem is "fixed" by choosing a viewer for the NEF files that doesn't
    try to create a thumbnail! I can view them with ViewNX or CaptureNX
    whenever I want and since I always shoot RAW + JPG whenever I shoot RAW, I
    can at least see what the image looks like.

    Norm
     
    Norm Dresner, May 9, 2008
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    me Guest

    Or you might install the updated Nikon raw codec which supports the D300,
    as long as you are not running a 64 bit version of Windoze.

    http://www.nikonimglib.com/nefcodec/
     
    me, May 9, 2008
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  8. Norm Dresner

    Norm Dresner Guest

    | On Fri, 09 May 2008 13:35:50 GMT, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems "Norm
    |
    | >Based on a suggestion from the Windows XP newsgroup, the solution was not
    the NEF viewer patch which worked on my D70 images but predates the D300 and
    can't handle those.
    |
    | >The problem was the file association for the NEF files. On the computer
    | >without a problem the association was to the Microsoft RAW viewer which
    was
    | >smart enough to recognize that it couldn't handle D300 raw files and
    doesn't
    | >try. On the computer with a problem, the association was with CaptureNX
    and
    | >there may be an incompatibility there instead.
    | >
    | >The problem is "fixed" by choosing a viewer for the NEF files that
    doesn't
    | >try to create a thumbnail! I can view them with ViewNX or CaptureNX
    | >whenever I want and since I always shoot RAW + JPG whenever I shoot RAW,
    I
    | >can at least see what the image looks like.
    |

    The final solution was that I apparently had a bad installation of
    CaptureNX. I uninstalled and reinstalled it and it's working perfectly and
    even supplying thumbnails for viewing NEF files in Windows Explorer.

    NOW ... a question: I installed CaptureNX version 1.3.0 which is what I
    also had running flawlessly on a Win2K system. I have the 1.3.3 upgrade but
    haven't installed it yet because -- at least as of now -- I don't see any
    reason to do that. BUT ... has anyone either had bad experiences with 1.3.3
    or know what the upgrade was intended to solve?
    TIA
    Norm
     
    Norm Dresner, May 9, 2008
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  9. Norm Dresner

    me Guest

    I thought you said you knew about the Nikon Tech Support Database?

    http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bi...nMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1
     
    me, May 9, 2008
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  10. Norm Dresner

    Norm Dresner Guest

    | On Fri, 09 May 2008 20:24:08 GMT, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems "Norm
    |
    | >
    | >NOW ... a question: I installed CaptureNX version 1.3.0 which is what I
    | >also had running flawlessly on a Win2K system. I have the 1.3.3 upgrade
    but
    | >haven't installed it yet because -- at least as of now -- I don't see any
    | >reason to do that. BUT ... has anyone either had bad experiences with
    1.3.3
    | >or know what the upgrade was intended to solve?
    |
    | I thought you said you knew about the Nikon Tech Support Database?
    |
    |
    http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bi...nMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1

    If I don't have any of the (apparent) problems that are specifically listed,
    is there any good reason to apply the upgrade?

    Norm
     
    Norm Dresner, May 10, 2008
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    me Guest

    me, May 10, 2008
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