Anybody have direct experience on the Canon EOS Rebel Xsi?

Discussion in 'Canon' started by HEMI-Powered, May 17, 2008.

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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    Read an advance look in, I think, Popular Photography on the Rebel Xsi
    and was intrigued and highly interested in it to replace my 3 year-old
    Rebel XT. There's nothing wrong with the Rebel and it's 8 mega pixels are
    enough, but I see great advantes for the 3" LCD especially in live
    preview mode, and I think it's improved AF and AE algorithms as I
    understand them will help.

    I assume all my lenses and 430EX external flash will work. And, I hope
    that the Xsi still uses CF cards. If not, can you comment on what it does
    use?

    TIA.
     
    HEMI-Powered, May 17, 2008
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    Pete D Guest

    CAn't comment other than it does use SD/SDHC cards, that should not be a
    show stopper, a couple of 4Gig cards will only cost a few dollars.
     
    Pete D, May 17, 2008
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    l v Guest

    According to the Xsi manual from Canon's web site - page 178...

    "Recording media: SD memory card, SDHC memory card"
     
    l v, May 18, 2008
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  4. I upgraded from a 400D to a 40D featuring a larger LCD and live view as the
    XSi. I find both features are significant and useful.
     
    Richard J Kinch, May 18, 2008
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    BobW Guest

    Be aware that the SDHC cards (SD cards that are 4GB and larger) may require
    you to get a new card reader for your computer.

    I tried merely installing Windows XP hotfix KB934428 but it did not resolve
    the problem I had reading my 4GB SDHC cards. I bought a new card reader that
    specifically says that it supports SDHC (not just SD) and it works like a
    champ.

    Bob
     
    BobW, May 18, 2008
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    Pete D Guest

    Some SDHC cards come with a SDHC reader, I think my 4Gb Sandisk card did.
     
    Pete D, May 18, 2008
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  7. BobW wrote:
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    So stick with 2GB cards - probably more than enough.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, May 18, 2008
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    Pete D added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
    maybe not a show stopper, but a PITA because I can't use my CFs. Thanks
    for the comment.

    btw, I would NEVER use more than a 1 gig card EVER - too great a chance
    of blowing many hundreds of shots if anything at all goes wrong. much
    better to spread the risk across 4 1 gigs, I think. still, since it is
    highly unlikely that I'll shoot at over 4 MP, I barely need 2 gig of
    memory.
     
    HEMI-Powered, May 18, 2008
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    l v added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
    Thanks. If I buy it, I guess I'll have to connect the 4-way card reader I
    bought some time back!
     
    HEMI-Powered, May 18, 2008
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    Richard J Kinch added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    ....
    I have done no research yet but plan to take a look maybe this afternoon
    or early next week. I really like the compact size and weight of the
    Rebel series which prevented me from getting a better Canon in the first
    place or a Nikon D70s or higher end which I also evaluated. My strength
    and endurance isn't what it was when I wore the clothes of a younger man,
    so light weight is important to me.

    I'm not sure what camera stores, if any, still allow full refunds for any
    reason. I think that Ritz still does but I haven't talked to them or any.
    I much prefer to buy ONLY from a store that allows refunds just in case I
    just don't like it or don't see $800 in improvements with a few hundred
    test shots.

    Anybody know for sure about the L-glass lenses and Canon external
    flashes? Thanks.
     
    HEMI-Powered, May 18, 2008
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    gotbait Guest

    As far as I know any EF glass will work including L lenses,Ive been
    lookin at this one for mine
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/183198-USA/Canon_2578A002_70_200mm_f_4_0L_USM_Autofocus.html
    ..
    Ive had my xsi about a month and am happy with it, taking some
    getting used to as my last slr was a minolta x370, that ive used since
    1985.
    The flash should be ok also as the 430 was what the Canon Dealer has
    been pushing at me.
    My understanding is that any of the accessories from their newer
    cameras will work from the rebels to the d models (30d+).
    I do know that it used a different battery grip and a different
    battery, the sd cards seem fine , but get higher speed ones I was
    told, I know the high speed ones transfer data to the puter faster but
    not sure if the write in the camera faster.
    This is the only photo Ive posted with the xsi, and I degrade the
    quality and size to make it less desirable for rippers and other photo
    I may have online was taken with a sony dsc v1.
    http://faw67.deviantart.com/art/Da-Frog-85827142

    Happy days
    FAW
     
    gotbait, May 18, 2008
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    gotbait added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
    Great, thanks! You'll be quite happy with it, I think. It is, IMO, a
    very good compromise of size/weight, power, and price.
    I would expect that and will find out for sure when I go looking. I
    intend to take my Rebel XT with my most commonly used L-glass zoom and
    the 430EX and test drive them in the store.
    It annoys me that I need to buy new SD cards but I guess that's
    progress. Also, it is annoying from a $$$ standpoint also, but
    expected, that the battery would be different. Seems all the camera
    makers have some sort of compulsion to change this stuff each time they
    release a new model.Maybe that's an easy way to more revenue when
    people upgrade.

    Thanks for the link. As I said earlier this morning, I hope I can find
    a store that will allow a full Visa refund if I don't like it, but
    since I feel so strongly that my current XT was and still is a great
    camera, it seems pretty far fetched that I wouldn't like the Xsi with
    what I believe are so many improvements.

    The main issues I've had with the XT taking my main subject, cars at
    outdoor shows and museums are these:

    1) AF failures about 2% of the time even though I always use AF lock
    and only use one sampling point in the center
    2) Flash AE failures even though I also always use AE lock on the back
    of the camera (once I found it). It is tedious and never quite right to
    keep moving the AE sampling point to different parts of the car until
    it looks OK in the LCD. And, the much larger LCD will give me a better
    chance at success here
    3) Problems with dynamic range both outdoors and with flash. Outdoors,
    it is usually when shooting an engine or car interior and everything
    else is blown out from being way over-exposed. And, with flash, I have
    similar dynamic range problems.

    Dang! Forgot to ask people how the noise is on the Xsi!

    Since you own one, you're a very good source for an opine. On my XT, I
    find that it is pretty much useless above ISO 400 but I would love to
    shoot at 1600 (or higher if the Xsi can) because I could get away many
    times with the flash which causes it's own kind of problems.

    Thanks for the comments and if you have more based on my reply now,
    please let me know, I'd appreciated it.
     
    HEMI-Powered, May 18, 2008
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    Archibald Guest

    If you are going on a 1 or 2 week trip to somewhere where there may
    not be easy access to Internet cafes to unload the memory card, then
    you may have to store all your shots on the card(s). The easiest
    remedy is to buy an 8 GB card (probably would hold 700 raw shots) or
    maybe even a 16 GB card (nowadays less than $200). It's a lot easier
    to carry a 16 GB card than a laptop.

    And IMHO your chances of dropping a 1 GB SD card down a sewer grating
    or similar while changing it for another 1 GB card are a lot higher
    than losing all your images on a 16 GB card.

    Archibald
     
    Archibald, May 18, 2008
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : If you are going on a 1 or 2 week trip to somewhere where there may
    : not be easy access to Internet cafes to unload the memory card, then
    : you may have to store all your shots on the card(s). The easiest
    : remedy is to buy an 8 GB card (probably would hold 700 raw shots) or
    : maybe even a 16 GB card (nowadays less than $200). It's a lot easier
    : to carry a 16 GB card than a laptop.
    :
    : And IMHO your chances of dropping a 1 GB SD card down a sewer grating
    : or similar while changing it for another 1 GB card are a lot higher
    : than losing all your images on a 16 GB card.

    I sort of agree with you. But the counter argument would be that if you're
    careful, you'll never drop a card down a sewer grating, while the failure of a
    card is beyond your power to prevent.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, May 18, 2008
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : HEMI-Powered wrote:
    : > Read an advance look in, I think, Popular Photography on the Rebel Xsi
    : > and was intrigued and highly interested in it to replace my 3 year-old
    : > Rebel XT. There's nothing wrong with the Rebel and it's 8 mega pixels are
    : > enough, but I see great advantes for the 3" LCD especially in live
    : > preview mode, and I think it's improved AF and AE algorithms as I
    : > understand them will help.
    : >
    : > I assume all my lenses and 430EX external flash will work. And, I hope
    : > that the Xsi still uses CF cards. If not, can you comment on what it does
    : > use?
    : >
    : > TIA.
    : >
    :
    : According to the Xsi manual from Canon's web site - page 178...
    :
    : "Recording media: SD memory card, SDHC memory card"

    They all seem to be going that way. So those of us who bought a sufficient
    quantity of CF cards without whining about it are made to look like jackasses.
    And someone who buys an XSi and saves his XT or XTi as his spare has to carry
    two kinds of cards. Thanks, Canon.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, May 18, 2008
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : HEMI-Powered writes:
    :
    : > but I see great advantes for the 3" LCD especially in live
    : > preview mode
    :
    : I upgraded from a 400D to a 40D featuring a larger LCD and live view as the
    : XSi. I find both features are significant and useful.

    So is the 40D worth the extra money over the XSi? Or should one wait for the
    50D?

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, May 18, 2008
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : Richard J Kinch added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    : ...
    :
    : >> but I see great advantes for the 3" LCD especially in live preview
    : >> mode
    : >
    : > I upgraded from a 400D to a 40D featuring a larger LCD and live view
    : > as the XSi. I find both features are significant and useful.
    : >
    : I have done no research yet but plan to take a look maybe this afternoon
    : or early next week. I really like the compact size and weight of the
    : Rebel series which prevented me from getting a better Canon in the first
    : place or a Nikon D70s or higher end which I also evaluated. My strength
    : and endurance isn't what it was when I wore the clothes of a younger man,
    : so light weight is important to me.
    :
    : I'm not sure what camera stores, if any, still allow full refunds for any
    : reason. I think that Ritz still does but I haven't talked to them or any.
    : I much prefer to buy ONLY from a store that allows refunds just in case I
    : just don't like it or don't see $800 in improvements with a few hundred
    : test shots.
    :
    : Anybody know for sure about the L-glass lenses and Canon external
    : flashes? Thanks.

    It's a member of the EOS family, so it's inconceivable that the lenses and
    flashes aren't compatible. But in any case, that info is surely on the Canon
    Web site. (Yes, I realize that the Canon USA site may be the slowest in the
    civilized world, but it's reasonably informative when you finally get where
    you're going.)

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, May 18, 2008
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    Archibald Guest

    I have both -- the 40D is for more serious shooting, the Excess Eye is
    for occasions when portability is more important. The 40D with the
    17-55/2.8 is twice the weight of the XSi with the 17-55 SI kit. But
    the 40D is a much faster camera to work with and autofocus can be
    better, so it gets used when I can.

    Kind of hard to make decisions about the 50D, since it's not out yet.

    Archibald
     
    Archibald, May 18, 2008
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    It *is* annoying, but technology advances. You'd want a
    camera with the latest technology or you'd not be upgrading.

    The battery change is, I've been told, due to the fact that
    the camera can require more power and the new battery is able
    to supply that. The CF vs SD debate is about over. The CF
    cards are big and so with an SD card more other stuff can be
    put into the camera without increasing its size.

    Canon held out with CF cards for a long time. Most others
    have already gone to SD.
     
    Paul J Gans, May 18, 2008
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    And by the time it is, folks will be wondering about the 60D...
     
    Paul J Gans, May 18, 2008
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