Apple gives a new meaning to solid state.

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Eric Stevens, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. Eric Stevens

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Why should she? You often say "let the computer do the work for you".
    In this case, she's saying "Let the husband do the work for you".

    Don't attempt to impose what you think should be done in a situation
    where what is done is agreeable to both parties.
    Tony Cooper, Nov 2, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    If you have any spare cash I still have that diamond broach.
    I haven't found anything I can wear it with. ;-)
    < >
    Savageduck, Nov 2, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    so she isn't reliant on someone presetting a gps, a very simple thing
    to do, when she wants to go somewhere.
    and if he doesn't want to enter it in? then she's stuck.

    maybe that's how he controls her every move.
    i'm not imposing anything.

    twisting yet again.
    Guest, Nov 2, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    PeterN, Nov 2, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Lenovo laptops are sprinkled through the thread. I still think you
    were the one who dragged Lenovo batteries out into the bublic arena.
    Eric Stevens, Nov 2, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Do you think I denied that?

    I pointed out that Word started neither on Mac or Windows, which is
    But I did, and now you are frothing.
    The problem is that I thought it was about Word. And it was too.
    It was there OK. It was just that you never noticed it.
    But it was Word.
    You only *thought* about the Mac and Windows version.
    Eric Stevens, Nov 2, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    Facts be damned, right? Stop just "thinking" stuff and start substantiating
    - you know, like I do when I make a claim.

    The first time the word "Lenovo" was ever mentioned in this thread:

    Author: PeterN

    The first time it was mentioned in relation to its batteries:

    Author: PeterN
    Sandman, Nov 2, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Don't be so bloody silly!

    I never denied Nospam's claim.

    How come you are arguing with me even when I agree?
    Eric Stevens, Nov 2, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Yeah. You knew that these were not new parts youwere discussing. It's
    just that you hadn't mentioned it.
    Eric Stevens, Nov 2, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest


    Be aware, there are two airfields in the district. The one with the
    sealed runways still exists.
    Eric Stevens, Nov 2, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Eric Stevens, Nov 2, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    I also didn't mentioned their color, where they were stored or the name of
    the boss of the company that sells them. I didn't mention that they were
    used because it was irrelevant to the information I was supplying.

    Stop arguing about everything all the time. You only came in to this thread
    to try to antagonize me now. Trying to find me making some form of mistake,
    and if it wasn't a mistake, then try to insist it was anyway.
    Sandman, Nov 2, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    if you didn't deny it, what's the problem then?
    but not relevant to what i said.

    you chastise me for bringing up irrelevant things, yet you do it
    yourself and want a free pass.
    i'm not frothing at all.

    you're accusing me of making a mistake, when i did no such thing.

    you read a different meaning than what was written and won't admit your
    it is about word.

    it's just that it's word on the mac and windows. not dos.

    nobody (but you) is talking about dos.
    other way around. *you* read it wrong.
    yes it was, on a mac and windows system.
    if there is no cli version alongside the gui version, then it is
    unambiguous what i meant.

    it could *only* have meant gui therefore explicitly saying gui is
    mac and windows is all that's relevant in this discussion.

    you're avoiding admitting you made a mistake.
    Guest, Nov 2, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    so why did you bring up something irrelevant?

    and then you accuse others of sidetracking.
    Guest, Nov 2, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    You are off the track entirely. You can see nospam's original remark
    and Tony's response in Message-ID: <> on
    Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:26:20 -0400.

    nope. customers don't care. the battery lasts longer than the
    computer does. it's a non-issue.

    That's not saying much for the quality of the computer.

    With hindsight both were set on their respective courses. But then the
    thread dissolves into the normal shambles of confused argument

    To Tony saying "nonsense. the battery is rated for 5 years." Nospam
    asks "how often do you buy a new laptop?" Neither has yet realised
    their differences in interpretation.

    Then later Tony says:

    "That aside, you have clearly stated that the customer should expect
    to replace the laptop before that five year mark. You have stated
    that the battery will last longer than the computer.

    That doesn't say much about the quality of the computer. So, the
    part that costs the most is not going to last as long as the part
    that is significantly less in price. Does that make sense?"

    Nospam is still fixated on his view that the computer will be replaced
    on the grounds of obcolescence and has not yet realised that Tony
    thinks he means the computer will fail simply because it has failed.

    It's not until Message-ID: <281020130108126146%>
    of Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:08:12 -0400 that Nospam gives a hint that he
    _might_ mean something other than what Tony has understood when he

    "no, i said they typically replace the computer before they would
    need to replace the battery.

    the laptop does not suddenly stop working. it can work for many,
    many years. just with a degraded battery."

    .... and so it goes. All parties were well entrenched in argument
    before the differences in interpretation were realised. By then it
    became a blame game as to which was the natural interpretation.
    Sweetness and light never had a chance.
    Eric Stevens, Nov 2, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Small details can be important in writing.

    *Apple Batteries* is not the same as "if the topic is *Apple
    Batteries*" which is not the same as "the topic is *Apple Batteries*".
    You can also make Apple Batteries the topic by writing about them,
    which you did.
    Eric Stevens, Nov 2, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    And, you will note, nospam - who is now saying "if you don't
    understand, ask - is not asking.
    Tony Cooper, Nov 2, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Why should I stop when you won't?

    In this case, you are correct. Peter was the first.
    But on 20 Oct ,in Message-ID:
    <271020131950403046%>, you quoted from a URL
    provided by PeterN on the subject of Lenovo battery life.

    "check again, namely the footnote:

    Battery life using internal 3 cell battery and external ThinkPad
    68+ 6 cell battery

    and reading further,
    New Power Bridge technology allows users to swap external
    batteries without powering down their PC.  This new ³hot swap²
    feature, available with the ThinkPad 68(23.5Wh), 68+ (72Wh), and
    48Wh batteries, provides flexibility and maximum battery life in
    nearly any situation and extends productivity beyond all day.

    According to my calendar 20 Oct precedes 27 Oct: you were the first.
    Eric Stevens, Nov 3, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    I'm damned if I know. I haven't got one.
    It's just for the ebenfit of those who might have taken what you wrote
    as meaning that Word started with Mac and then Windows. I was just
    pointing out that it started well before either.
    If I have chided you (and I don't know that I would use that word) it
    is for using terms which can have multiple meanings while only
    intending one of them.
    I'm not accusing you of making a mistake!
    Here we go again.

    If you go back and see what I wrote it is not possible to think I was
    accusing you of making a mistake.
    So it's about Word on the Mac and Windows, which is a subset of Word.
    Not even I was.
    But you have to know of the earlier history and that Xenix et al had
    no GUI to know all that. For people who lacked this knowledge it would
    be simpler to say Word with a GUI started on the Mac.
    What mistake?
    Eric Stevens, Nov 3, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Because I didn't think it was entirely irrelevant. It might be a side
    issue but it's not entirely irrelevant.
    Eric Stevens, Nov 3, 2013
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