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Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by PeterN, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. PeterN

    Eric Stevens Guest

    He puts it in the standby condition by following the instructions to
    turn it off. I suggest you try this with your phone (if the battery is
    removable).
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 12, 2013
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  2. PeterN

    Sandman Guest

    So, no support. Gotcha. Still just a claim that it's in production.
     
    Sandman, Dec 12, 2013
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  3. PeterN

    Sandman Guest

    Wow, great comeback.
     
    Sandman, Dec 12, 2013
  4. PeterN

    Guest Guest

    it doesn't falsify it. it's a minor difference. it's just nitpicking.
     
    Guest, Dec 12, 2013
  5. PeterN

    Guest Guest

    then you know extremely little about computer programming.

    there's a *lot* more to programming than "nothing but writing
    instructions to an automata".
     
    Guest, Dec 12, 2013
  6. PeterN

    Guest Guest

    go for it.

    i'm pretty sure you'll miss some of them.

    not that it matters because the main subsets have been mentioned. the
    oddballs are more curiosities than anything else.
     
    Guest, Dec 12, 2013
  7. PeterN

    Guest Guest

    if he follows the instructions to turn it off, then it's off.

    if he follows the instructions to put it into standby, then it's not
    off.

    like i said, he may be confusing the two. you certainly are.

    and i know what my devices do when off and in standby, including old
    flip phones and current smartphones.

    when a phone is off, the cellular radios are off, which is what
    matters. end of story.
     
    Guest, Dec 12, 2013
  8. PeterN

    Guest Guest

    you're all over the map.

    first it's a phone with a bug installed, now it's a virus? what's next?

    android has a malware issue, but none of the malware can turn the
    cellular radio on when the phone is off.

    when the phone is off, the malware won't run, nor does anything else
    run. that's what off means. all that's on is the power manager looking
    for a button press to boot it.

    once again, a phone that is off cannot be tracked. end of story.

    a phone with a custom modification, i.e., a custom bug, is something
    else entirely and you have to be someone special (and not in a good
    way) that warrants being 'given' one.
     
    Guest, Dec 12, 2013
  9. PeterN

    Whisky-dave Guest

    Whisky-dave, Dec 12, 2013
  10. PeterN

    Guest Guest

    Guest, Dec 12, 2013
  11. PeterN

    Eric Stevens Guest

    What do you want: a certificate?
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 12, 2013
  12. PeterN

    Eric Stevens Guest

    It sounds like the inverse of the dead parrot skit.
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 12, 2013
  13. PeterN

    Eric Stevens Guest

    Where would you be without the automata?
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 12, 2013
  14. PeterN

    Eric Stevens Guest

    Call it bug, virus, malware - whatever you like. The fact is that it
    is possible to insert such things into some cellphones. Neither of us
    know what such an intruder might do. Nor do we know how it may lead to
    the phone being traced.
    The bug doesn't have to be hardware.
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 12, 2013
  15. PeterN

    Guest Guest

    nothing like that at all.

    it doesn't have to be 0 to be considered dead.
     
    Guest, Dec 13, 2013
  16. PeterN

    Guest Guest

    you really don't get it do you?

    it's like saying a surgeon and a butcher are the same because they both
    use a knife.

    and you're also forgetting that there were cameras with auto-exposure
    that didn't have a microcontroller.

    more mindless nitpicking.
     
    Guest, Dec 13, 2013
  17. PeterN

    Guest Guest

    it can be all sorts of things, and whatever it is, it has to be added.

    there also has to be a *very* good reason for someone to add it to
    *your* phone, and they have to do it without you knowing it.

    a phone you get at the store isn't going to have it, nor will it have
    it, unless you are doing things that warrant attention.
    doesn't matter what it is.

    however, it *does* have to be added by someone other than the factory.
     
    Guest, Dec 13, 2013
  18. PeterN

    Tony Cooper Guest

    As you just said "more mindless nitpicking".
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 13, 2013
  19. PeterN

    Eric Stevens Guest

    It has to be 0 for film cameras to be no longer made.
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 13, 2013
  20. PeterN

    Eric Stevens Guest

    You are determinedly missing the point that your job depends on
    automation.

    Never mind: I will leave it at that.

    Just a thought, to make sure you understand what I am getting at: I
    don't mean 'depends' in the sense that you use automation to do your
    job. I mean that your job 'depends' on there being automatic machines
    which need programming. Without them, you would have no job.
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 13, 2013
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