Are men better photographers than women?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by DD (Rox), Oct 27, 2005.

  1. DD (Rox)

    DD (Rox) Guest

    I don't know many female photographers, so I can't comment fully on the
    quality of their output. I have seen some stunning work in many areas of
    photography by the likes of Annie Lebowitz, EJ Camp and a few others,
    but I remain puzzled by the fact that so few women seem to be successful
    in this field.

    Usually women have a better sense of aesthetics than men, so how come
    men dominate this field?
     
    DD (Rox), Oct 27, 2005
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    Charles Guest


    From the outside looking in, it seems to me that commercial sucess in
    photography hinges on the ability to promote yourself as much as the
    ability to make atractive images. At least at first, when a person is
    getting started.
     
    Charles, Oct 27, 2005
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    Eugene Guest

    You could make the same observation about most other fields as well. I'm
    certainly not going to suggest that men are more competent than women,
    but it seems that at the top of virtually every profession you'll find
    lots of men, but few women. I have a theory that in general men are more
    ambitious and competitive than women (I think it's a testosterone thing)
    and perhaps place a higher priority on career advancement (please note,
    I said "in general", I'm not trying to offend anyone here). There's
    obviously also the family thing. In general starting a family for most
    women means that their careers take a back seat (at least for a while)
    whereas this is not generally the case for men.

    Interestingly in the photography program at my university there's only 2
    guys in final year (including me), compared to about 10 girls, not that
    I'm complaining ;-) Perhaps things are going to change a bit in the future.
     
    Eugene, Oct 27, 2005
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  4. Check out http://www.pbase.com/zylen

    This gal is very good. To answer your question, men will continue to become
    less dominant in every field as cultures evolve. The major reason that gals
    have been "limited" in what they can do is a cultural bias that is rapidly
    crumbling in some nations and that trend is spreading to others. The human
    race cannot afford to ignore half of its talent.
     
    Charles Schuler, Oct 27, 2005
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    jean Guest

    The muslims are doing their best to prevent that from happening. How on
    earth can you take pictures with a burka?

    Jean
     
    jean, Oct 27, 2005
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  6. The Muslims will eventually lose their shaky advantage. They currently have
    enough clout to cause a lot of misery for some time to come ... but their
    time is finite. Unfortunately, the end game is going to be ugly as they are
    "die hards." But, die they will in terms of their untenable cultural
    attitudes. This is the information age and the truth spreads rapidly.
     
    Charles Schuler, Oct 27, 2005
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  7. DD (Rox)

    Eugene Guest

    I don't really agree with you here. I think their grip is getting
    stronger, and remember that in general they're multiplying faster than
    the rest of us. I just saw a documentary about Islam in Malaysia. This
    was a fairly progressive country, but gradually civil liberties are
    being eroded and the strict muslim code of behaviour is coming into
    force. If you are a muslim there you can be arrested now for things that
    a few years ago wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. The moral dress code
    police raided a nightclub that had been operating without any concerns
    for many years and arrested anyone who they deemed to be dressed
    indecently according to their laws.
     
    Eugene, Oct 27, 2005
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    Paul H. Guest


    Men are better at just about everything. In fact, women are so blitheringly
    incompetent at tasks other than darning men's socks that it almost seems as
    if they belong to a separate species, one astonishingly close to chimps and
    bonobos. Most women can't even screw on bottlecaps without getting so
    confused they break down in tears, waiting for some man, any man, to come
    along and properly finish the job. Why aren't there more women
    photographers? Ha! Because they can't figure out how to remove the damn
    lens caps on their cameras, that's why! Don't you know anything? You must
    be a woman yourself to ask such a blindingly stupid question.

    Hope this helps further understanding between the sexes. Why can't we all
    just get along?
     
    Paul H., Oct 27, 2005
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    G.T. Guest

    Great composition but I find the overly-processed photos fairly obnoxious.
    I much prefer her simpler shots.

    Greg
     
    G.T., Oct 27, 2005
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    eawckyegcy Guest

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    eawckyegcy, Oct 28, 2005
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  11. You need to educate yourself, do the names Dorothea Lange, Imogen
    Cunningham, Margaret Bourke-White ring any bells?

    http://www.smithsonianmag.si.edu/smithsonian/issues97/mar97/femphoto.html

    http://www.womenphotographers.com/

    http://www.rleggat.com/photohistory/history/women.htm

    http://www.womeninphotography.org/

    Women have been very successful in Photography.
    **********************************************************

    "A combat photographer should be able to make you see the
    color of blood in black and white"


    David Douglas Duncan
    Speaking on why in Vietnam
    he worked only in black and white
    http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/online/ddd/
     
    John A. Stovall, Oct 28, 2005
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  12. DD (Rox)

    Skip M Guest

    Around here, (San Diego) women are about a 50/50 split, especially in the
    wedding photography business. My wife and I were shooting a wedding at the
    Hotel del Coronado on Saturday. There were three other weddings going on at
    the same time (bit of a wedding factory, there!) There were two women
    shooting one of them, one woman shooting another, alone, and a man shooting
    the fourth, also alone. So the gender count is four women, two men, four
    weddings...
     
    Skip M, Oct 28, 2005
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  13. Can I have your stereo?
     
    Bob Harrington, Oct 28, 2005
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    Anabella M. Guest

    Dear Paul H., are you off your medications?

    You haven't used your peepee in a while, haven't you?

    Anabella M.
     
    Anabella M., Oct 28, 2005
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    imodan Guest

    indeed......she has a good eye and good technique...but the post
    processing is way way over the top....if she cut it down by 75% it
    would look great....
     
    imodan, Oct 28, 2005
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    Eugene Guest

    I should just add here, that I am not trying to disrespect good decent
    tolerant Muslim people, and I know there are many of those. My comments
    are directed at the extremist element, which exists in all religions,
    those that don't believe that religion and state should be separate and
    feel that they have a God given duty to force others conform to their
    ideals.
     
    Eugene, Oct 28, 2005
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    DD (Rox) Guest

    I think its a bit tough to tar all Muslims with the same brush. We have
    a lot of them where I live and amongst themselves the degree of
    staunchness varies tremendously.

    When I was studying for my marketing diploma I had an excellent
    statistics lecturer who was a Muslim female. Talking to her about her
    culture opened my eyes to the way that they approach western life. For
    instance, she still wears a scarf around her head, but her female
    children don't. They have the choice.

    But yes, you are right in that the times are a-changing...
     
    DD (Rox), Oct 28, 2005
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    DD (Rox) Guest

    I dunno...I think her stuff looks pretty ordinary to me (in terms of
    post processing - that is). Nowhere near the level that we see in that
    Cambridge guy's work...
     
    DD (Rox), Oct 28, 2005
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  19. DD (Rox)

    DD (Rox) Guest

    I can relate to the bottlecap thing. My wife doesn't know how to screw
    anything correctly...
     
    DD (Rox), Oct 28, 2005
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  20. DD (Rox)

    DD (Rox) Guest

    But for every woman that makes it as a photographer there are 100 males
    doing better. Why?
     
    DD (Rox), Oct 28, 2005
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