are you a New Yorker visiting London?

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Viktor, Dec 13, 2004.

  1. Viktor

    Viktor Guest

    Hi all,
    I am young photography student from London UK and I need a BIG favour.
    The digital equipment here is beyond my budget and I wanted to ask someone
    visiting London to bring me two small items.

    To make it worth your while I can:
    - pick you up from either Heathrow or Gatwick airport and drive you to a
    London destination free of charge
    - offer you a weekends accommodation in central London for free
    - pay $150 for you help
    I could even take you to a good pub in Kings road for a pint of Guinness :)

    If you could do with one of the above, or a just a kind soul wanting to help
    me out read on...

    This is the large photography store in NY city:

    I need the following equipment :

    -Canon eos 20D : $1499

    -Canon 24-70L f2.8 lens : $1095

    Total cost : $2594

    This is not some sort of scam, as I will pay cash when I meet you at the
    Please bring the receipts.
    I'd travel to New York myself and buy the goods, but the flight cost and the
    hotel would wipe out
    what I could save.

    Please please help me out.
    I'd be ever so grateful, and you may even make a friend in London :)

    Viktor, Dec 13, 2004
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    PeterL Guest

    PeterL, Dec 13, 2004
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    Ken Weitzel Guest


    Reason is simple... they (his government) will charge him
    an arm and a leg in taxes on the purchase.

    He's looking for someone (American) to buy a camera,
    then before even so much as taking it out of the box
    go on vacation to London. Where, of course, they misplace
    the camera.

    Ken Weitzel, Dec 13, 2004
  4. And if you get inspected at Heathrow, will Victor be there to keep you from
    going to jail in Merry Old Britain?
    Charles Schuler, Dec 13, 2004
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    Viktor Guest

    This is not a problem.
    I do not need the boxes, only the manuals and the receipts (and the goods of
    You do not declare these at customs, you bring them through as your own,
    they would be at that moment in time. These 2 pieces of kit are small, and
    take up much room in your luggage. Just mare sure they don't get knocked

    Viktor, Dec 14, 2004
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    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi Bob...

    Nope, not quite. Don't smuggle it or attempt to at all.

    The New Yorker buys himself a camera, intending to use his
    new camera on his London vacation, then bring it back home
    with him to use "forever" as his camera.

    He shows it to UK customs if they're interested, along
    with his other stuff - razor, toothbrush, etc.

    The trick is - during his vacation, he accidentally {on purpose)
    loses it. It's gone. Where oh where could he have left it? :)
    Well, WE know where he lost it. He lost it in the home of
    the young fellow that wants to buy it at a tax free price.
    And that young fellow in turn "loses" some money, which is
    now in the New Yorker's pocket :)

    The downside (and a little scary) part is that the New
    Yorker is in a foreign country alone, carrying a rather
    large value in a small box in his suitcase, and being
    met by a stranger to be driven about. I mean no disrespect
    to the young student, but... not for me, thanks.

    Hope this explains a bit better...

    Ken Weitzel, Dec 14, 2004
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    PeterL Guest

    You don't go to jail if you pay the custom.
    PeterL, Dec 14, 2004
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    PeterL Guest

    He is not asking someone to transport illegal drugs.
    PeterL, Dec 14, 2004
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    Ken Davey Guest

    Wouldn't work.
    They (the friends) would be subject to the same onerous duties and taxes as
    the OP is trying to avoid. And if you think this is some small amount -
    think again!
    I would do it in a minute (half cash up front if you please - held by a
    friend in Hants.) if I was planning to travel to Britain via NYC.
    Smuggling (lets call a spade a spade) is a Commonwealth tradition.
    Hope you actually find someone who will do this for you.
    Ken Davey, Dec 14, 2004
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    pcs Guest

    I only offered a free ride as good will gesture.
    I will gladly just hand over the cash at the airport and be on my way...
    pcs, Dec 14, 2004
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    John Mares Guest

    For carrying *your* new camera for *your* holiday?

    I don't think so!

    John Mares
    John Mares, Dec 14, 2004
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    Des Perado Guest

    Explain the jail bit. Why jail?
    Des Perado, Dec 14, 2004
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    Deep Reset Guest

    Don't listen - it's a con - there are no good pubs in the King's Road.

    Deep Reset, Dec 14, 2004
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    pcs Guest

    The potter is a fine pub :)
    HJ Beans isn't too bad either!
    pcs, Dec 14, 2004
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    Owamanga Guest

    Because this man is attempting to defraud HM Customs from an Import
    Duty that they are legally allowed to levy on such import business.

    Doing so is illegal. Fucking with HM Customs & Excise is a very stupid
    thing to do, they are the most powerful enforcement branch in the UK
    and can search your person, house and business without a warrant, and
    they can seize and detain you or your property for an unlimited period
    of time.

    They can even assess a tax at 150% of the estimated UK value, so in
    this case $2500 is spent purchasing the camera but if it's valued at
    $3500 in the UK, you could be taxed an additional $5200.

    This is smuggling, regardless of the legality of the product involved.

    Without a doubt they share suspicion and conviction data with other
    countries, so you might find you are the subject of full searches for
    the rest of your life every time you travel.

    Discussing the fraud in a public forum such as the internet, and
    attempting to smuggle BOXED products WITH RECIEPTS is just plain

    The only semi-legal work-round is for the importer to use the product
    first, (BRING NO BOXES OR RECIEPTS) and then decide (once he is in the
    UK) to sell it 'used' to the buyer. Don't have any written agreement
    of sale with you or other sale paraphernalia as you enter the UK. Put
    receipts into an envelope and mail them to the buyer.
    Owamanga, Dec 14, 2004
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    Owamanga Guest

    To complete a fraudulent smuggling transaction within the airport is
    incredibly stupid.

    Follow this through and you can both look forward to prison time.
    Owamanga, Dec 14, 2004
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    Chuck Guest

    Because this man is attempting to defraud HM Customs from an Import
    Wihtou the boxes ? No one will know that its for someone else, wake up ...
    Chuck, Dec 14, 2004
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    Chuck Guest

    wow, its the chance of your life !!! You will probably do the frontpage of
    the Daily... for your stupidity.
    Chuck, Dec 14, 2004
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    Chuck Guest

    who said within the airport ?
    Chuck, Dec 14, 2004
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    Owamanga Guest

    "At the airport" - within or just outside makes no difference. The UK
    have more surveillance cameras than any other country, they are
    extremely high-density at airports and cash transactions is one thing
    that will gain attention.

    Remember, Customs & Excise Officials need no warrants to detain or
    Owamanga, Dec 14, 2004
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