Art and photography

Discussion in 'Photography' started by UC, Apr 2, 2005.

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    UC Guest

    "A serious question though : Why don't you consider Photography art?"

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    Let me try this one more time:

    Consider these objects:

    1) A household steam iron

    2) Something that looks exactly like a household steam iron

    3) A picture (painting) of a boy in blue clothes

    4) A color photograph of boy in blue clothes

    5) A color photograph of the (painting) of the boy in blue clothes

    Let's start with the steam iron, shall we? If you leave it around your
    house, no one is going to ask 'what is that a steam iron of'?
    You're inclined to say: 'Excuse me, I don't quite understand you!', and
    you'd be right. A steam iron is not a steam iron of something else.
    It's self-contained.

    Turning to No. 2, the 'mock' steam iron, you could call it a work of
    art I suppose, but if there is no structural difference, how can we
    call that art? Suppose an 'artist' comes to the steam iron factory one
    day and takes away a bunch of slightly off-tolerance parts that are
    rejects, and then assembles these in exactly the correct way so as to
    form a working steam iron. Is there really any difference? I'd say
    we're straining to say so.

    Now, to No. 3, the painting.
    http://www.imagereproductions.com/galnsborough/Galnsborough01-blue boy.jpg

    Why is this 'art'? Well, in its day, it may not have been! The term
    'artist' has been corrupted today to mean someone far more significant
    than that of the portrait painter. By those lower standards, I could
    accept that photographers are 'artists', but I must caution that I am
    talking only from the standpoint of portraiture, and that calling
    someone an 'artist' was more of an insult than a compliment. Ancient
    Greek and Roman sculpture that we praise so highly was essentially a
    commodity. What we have left today from them is mostly the cheap marble
    stuff. The good stuff was made of bronze or other metals, and most of
    it disappeared centuries ago.

    Now, is the color photograph of the boy in blue clothes 'art'.
    Certainly not in the modern sense, but perhaps in the ancient sense,
    and again the term 'artist' was more a term of derision than praise.
    Finally, our fifth object is but a mere copy of an artist's portrait.

    Now, the most important point of my little essay. The steam iron is not
    a steam iron of something else, but a photograph is always a photograph
    of something else.
     
    UC, Apr 2, 2005
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    <http://pub31.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=2628084144&album=25775>

    here is photography as art

    Alan

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    retoohs, Apr 2, 2005
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