Astia replaces Kodachrome?

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Noons, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. Noons

    Noons Guest

    Over at APUG quite a few folks have realized
    that the latest improvements to Fuji's Astia - smooth
    coating of emulsion side to make it easy to scan,
    more consistent and vibrant colours - have placed it
    as a valid alternative to the constantly dwindling K64.

    That is also my experience. Anyone else?
    Noons, Sep 7, 2008
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    Annika1980 Guest

    I prefer Astia because it is the most neutral film and provides the
    most natural skin tones. While a film like Velvia might be "good for
    greens" it gives lousy results for portraits. I prefer a film that
    just captures what is there. If I want it to "pop" I can make it pop
    later. Astia also handles whites better than most films which is
    important if you are shooting weddings or snowy scenes.
    Annika1980, Sep 7, 2008
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  3. Noons

    Noons Guest

    Annika1980 wrote,on my timestamp of 7/09/2008 11:54 PM:
    Fuji have definitely been tweaking it. I reckon they even
    added a slight cyan cast in the latest batches, to make it
    more "Kodachrome-like"! :)
    Nothing that can't be handled with the scanner, but it's
    quite interesting how they've been playing without telling.
    Another thing I've found with Astia and Velvia: kept
    in the fridge even grossly expired, they still work
    quite well.

    Just been comparing some of my older Astia with the latest
    emulsions and there is definitely a difference. The slight
    blue cast is definitely there, so is the slight increase in
    colour vibrance: it's not quite increased saturation, just
    the reds and yellows seem "brighter", best I can define it.
    And the scanning has changed: the NI profile I used to
    clean the scan grain has had to be adjusted.

    All good, I suppose. I still regret the near
    disappearance of K but if Fuji steps in with Astia,
    I'll take it. Don't really like any of the latest
    Ektas from Kodak, even though they scan real good.
    Noons, Sep 7, 2008
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Depends on what type of projector you're using.
    Annika1980, Sep 7, 2008
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    RobertL Guest

    What about longevity? one of the pluses for Kodachrome was that there
    was no fading and the colours did not change much over many decades.

    RobertL, Sep 8, 2008
  6. Noons

    Noons Guest

    RobertL wrote,on my timestamp of 8/09/2008 9:46 PM:
    too early to decide on that!

    Just kidding. My E6 Ekta 64 from the early 80s
    is still in very good shape, so I reckon maybe
    Astia will last at least as long as that.
    Mind you: a lot younger than the 1950s 'chromes
    I inherited from my parents.
    Those still look as good as new...
    Noons, Sep 8, 2008
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    Noons Guest

    Annika1980 wrote,on my timestamp of 8/09/2008 1:48 AM:
    Which one do you reckon gets the best results?
    I use a very old Voigtlander with a relatively new
    Rollei lens and it works quite well but am looking
    around for something better. Ideally caroussel.
    Noons, Sep 8, 2008
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    Rol_Lei Nut Guest

    My Fujichromes from the early 1980's also look fine.
    I'd hope that newer formulations are at least as stable!
    Rol_Lei Nut, Sep 8, 2008
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    Bruce Guest

    The longest lasting slide film from Fuji is said to be Provia 100F,
    which approaches (if not equals) the longevity of Kodachrome.

    But where Fuji slide films score over Kodachrome is that they are more
    stable when projected. Once again, Provia 100F is said to be the
    best. Kodachrome survives incredibly well in storage but deteriorates
    faster when projected.
    Bruce, Sep 8, 2008
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    RobertL Guest

    My father's Kodachromes from the 1950s look fine also.

    RobertL, Sep 9, 2008
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