At the zoo

Discussion in 'Photography' started by PeterN, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:48:21 -0400, PeterN <>
    wrote:
    : foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    :
    :
    : <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>

    Gorillas are actually amiable, intelligent animals who enjoy watching people
    as much as people enjoy watching them. Every now and then one finds a bad
    actor who has to be shipped to another zoo because all the females in his
    current zoo are tired of his attitude. But in general they're good to have
    around.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Oct 18, 2013
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  2. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:02:27 -0400, PeterN <>
    wrote:
    : On 10/16/2013 4:06 PM, Mort wrote:
    : > PeterN wrote:
    : >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    : >>
    : >>
    : >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    : >>
    : >
    : > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or mating,
    : > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King Kong
    : > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    : >
    : > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    : >
    : > Mort Linder
    :
    : We should distinguish gorillas from chimps. Both are apes. Both are
    : omnivores, but a gorillas non-vegatarian diet consists of insects and
    : slugs. You are correct that gorrrillas are generally peaceful and will
    : try to avoid conflict. Chimps on the other hand can be quite vicious.
    : They also are meat hunters.
    : <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html>
    :
    : iIRC they are genetically the closest mamal to humans, having about 96%
    : of our genes in common.
    : Chimps have also been known to start unprovoked attacks on people.
    : They don't make good pets.

    They're very nervous and defensive. There was a case in Connecticut a few
    years ago wherein a chimp bit the face off of one of his owner's good friends.
    (She later had a face transplant which could be considered successful if the
    chimp has not bitten out her eyes in the process.) The friend had gotten
    between the chimp and his owner, and he thereupon went berserk.

    But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Oct 18, 2013
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  3. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    On 10/17/2013 10:31 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
    > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:02:27 -0400, PeterN <>
    > wrote:
    > : On 10/16/2013 4:06 PM, Mort wrote:
    > : > PeterN wrote:
    > : >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    > : >>
    > : >>
    > : >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    > : >>
    > : >
    > : > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or mating,
    > : > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King Kong
    > : > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    > : >
    > : > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    > : >
    > : > Mort Linder
    > :
    > : We should distinguish gorillas from chimps. Both are apes. Both are
    > : omnivores, but a gorillas non-vegatarian diet consists of insects and
    > : slugs. You are correct that gorrrillas are generally peaceful and will
    > : try to avoid conflict. Chimps on the other hand can be quite vicious.
    > : They also are meat hunters.
    > : <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html>
    > :
    > : iIRC they are genetically the closest mamal to humans, having about 96%
    > : of our genes in common.
    > : Chimps have also been known to start unprovoked attacks on people.
    > : They don't make good pets.
    >
    > They're very nervous and defensive. There was a case in Connecticut a few
    > years ago wherein a chimp bit the face off of one of his owner's good friends.
    > (She later had a face transplant which could be considered successful if the
    > chimp has not bitten out her eyes in the process.) The friend had gotten
    > between the chimp and his owner, and he thereupon went berserk.
    >
    > But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.
    >
    > Bob
    >


    Indeed A few years ago a toddler fell into a gorilla enclosure. One of
    the females picked it up, cuddled it, and would not let any of the other
    gorillas near it. The whole story ended quite well. I don't recall what
    the keepers did, but they got unharmed the toddler back.

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    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Oct 18, 2013
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    George Kerby Guest

    On 10/16/13 3:06 PM, in article nlC7u.9076$, "Mort"
    <> wrote:

    > PeterN wrote:
    >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    >>
    >>
    >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    >>

    >
    > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or mating,
    > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King Kong
    > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    >
    > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    >
    > Mort Linder


    You don't like redheads?!?
     
    George Kerby, Oct 18, 2013
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  5. PeterN

    George Kerby Guest

    On 10/16/13 5:07 PM, in article ,
    "Tony Cooper" <> wrote:

    > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:11:10 -0400, PeterN
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> On 10/16/2013 4:57 PM, Tim Conway wrote:
    >>> "PeterN" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    >>>>
    >>> Along with what Mort said. They're usually pretty docile. I've read
    >>> somewhere that if you ever meet up with one in the wild, just fold your arms
    >>> in front of you. They take that as a sign of friendliness and peaceableness
    >>> and probably won't hurt you.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> In my scuba diving days i learned that most creatures will not harm you
    >> unless they pervasive you as a threat, or a meal.

    >
    > The most harmful thing I ever encountered scuba diving was fire coral.
    >


    We had a barracuda that was VERY interested in my wife's shiny gold dangling
    bauble from her necklace in Cozumel back in the 90's.
     
    George Kerby, Oct 18, 2013
    #25
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    PeterN Guest

    On 10/17/2013 10:31 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
    > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:02:27 -0400, PeterN <>
    > wrote:
    > : On 10/16/2013 4:06 PM, Mort wrote:
    > : > PeterN wrote:
    > : >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    > : >>
    > : >>
    > : >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    > : >>
    > : >
    > : > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or mating,
    > : > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King Kong
    > : > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    > : >
    > : > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    > : >
    > : > Mort Linder
    > :
    > : We should distinguish gorillas from chimps. Both are apes. Both are
    > : omnivores, but a gorillas non-vegatarian diet consists of insects and
    > : slugs. You are correct that gorrrillas are generally peaceful and will
    > : try to avoid conflict. Chimps on the other hand can be quite vicious.
    > : They also are meat hunters.
    > : <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html>
    > :
    > : iIRC they are genetically the closest mamal to humans, having about 96%
    > : of our genes in common.
    > : Chimps have also been known to start unprovoked attacks on people.
    > : They don't make good pets.
    >
    > They're very nervous and defensive. There was a case in Connecticut a few
    > years ago wherein a chimp bit the face off of one of his owner's good friends.
    > (She later had a face transplant which could be considered successful if the
    > chimp has not bitten out her eyes in the process.) The friend had gotten
    > between the chimp and his owner, and he thereupon went berserk.
    >
    > But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.
    >
    > Bob
    >


    True.
    The chimps at the LA Zoo take delight at throwing their poop at the
    people them. It could be a good photo op, for the chimps.

    --
    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Oct 18, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 13:26:03 -0500, George Kerby
    <> wrote:

    >
    >
    >
    >On 10/16/13 5:07 PM, in article ,
    >"Tony Cooper" <> wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:11:10 -0400, PeterN
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 10/16/2013 4:57 PM, Tim Conway wrote:
    >>>> "PeterN" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:...
    >>>>> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    >>>>>
    >>>> Along with what Mort said. They're usually pretty docile. I've read
    >>>> somewhere that if you ever meet up with one in the wild, just fold your arms
    >>>> in front of you. They take that as a sign of friendliness and peaceableness
    >>>> and probably won't hurt you.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> In my scuba diving days i learned that most creatures will not harm you
    >>> unless they pervasive you as a threat, or a meal.

    >>
    >> The most harmful thing I ever encountered scuba diving was fire coral.
    >>

    >
    >We had a barracuda that was VERY interested in my wife's shiny gold dangling
    >bauble from her necklace in Cozumel back in the 90's.


    Most divemasters will warn divers about wearing necklaces and
    bracelets when in waters containing barracuda. Shiny = food to a
    barracuda.

    --
    Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
     
    Tony Cooper, Oct 18, 2013
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    George Kerby Guest

    On 10/18/13 1:44 PM, in article ,
    "Tony Cooper" <> wrote:

    > On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 13:26:03 -0500, George Kerby
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 10/16/13 5:07 PM, in article ,
    >> "Tony Cooper" <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:11:10 -0400, PeterN
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 10/16/2013 4:57 PM, Tim Conway wrote:
    >>>>> "PeterN" <> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:...
    >>>>>> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Along with what Mort said. They're usually pretty docile. I've read
    >>>>> somewhere that if you ever meet up with one in the wild, just fold your
    >>>>> arms
    >>>>> in front of you. They take that as a sign of friendliness and
    >>>>> peaceableness
    >>>>> and probably won't hurt you.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> In my scuba diving days i learned that most creatures will not harm you
    >>>> unless they pervasive you as a threat, or a meal.
    >>>
    >>> The most harmful thing I ever encountered scuba diving was fire coral.
    >>>

    >>
    >> We had a barracuda that was VERY interested in my wife's shiny gold dangling
    >> bauble from her necklace in Cozumel back in the 90's.

    >
    > Most divemasters will warn divers about wearing necklaces and
    > bracelets when in waters containing barracuda. Shiny = food to a
    > barracuda.


    True dat. And we learned the same in our class years before that. But, this
    was Cozumel awhile back and the guys didn't look like they were PADI.
    Believe me, she didn't ever do anything like that again!
     
    George Kerby, Oct 18, 2013
    #28
  9. PeterN

    Tim Conway Guest

    "PeterN" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 10/17/2013 10:31 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
    >> On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:02:27 -0400, PeterN <>
    >> wrote:
    >> : On 10/16/2013 4:06 PM, Mort wrote:
    >> : > PeterN wrote:
    >> : >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    >> : >>
    >> : >>
    >> : >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    >> : >>
    >> : >
    >> : > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or
    >> mating,
    >> : > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King
    >> Kong
    >> : > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    >> : >
    >> : > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    >> : >
    >> : > Mort Linder
    >> :
    >> : We should distinguish gorillas from chimps. Both are apes. Both are
    >> : omnivores, but a gorillas non-vegatarian diet consists of insects and
    >> : slugs. You are correct that gorrrillas are generally peaceful and will
    >> : try to avoid conflict. Chimps on the other hand can be quite vicious.
    >> : They also are meat hunters.
    >> : <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html>
    >> :
    >> : iIRC they are genetically the closest mamal to humans, having about 96%
    >> : of our genes in common.
    >> : Chimps have also been known to start unprovoked attacks on people.
    >> : They don't make good pets.
    >>
    >> They're very nervous and defensive. There was a case in Connecticut a few
    >> years ago wherein a chimp bit the face off of one of his owner's good
    >> friends.
    >> (She later had a face transplant which could be considered successful if
    >> the
    >> chimp has not bitten out her eyes in the process.) The friend had gotten
    >> between the chimp and his owner, and he thereupon went berserk.
    >>
    >> But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.
    >>
    >> Bob
    >>

    >
    > Indeed A few years ago a toddler fell into a gorilla enclosure. One of the
    > females picked it up, cuddled it, and would not let any of the other
    > gorillas near it. The whole story ended quite well. I don't recall what
    > the keepers did, but they got unharmed the toddler back.
    >

    Gorillas are definitely one of my favorite animals. They always seem so
    social and peaceable. "King Kong" *did* definitely give them a bad name. I
    would much rather meet up with one of them than many other species.
     
    Tim Conway, Oct 18, 2013
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  10. PeterN

    Tim Conway Guest

    "Robert Coe" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:02:27 -0400, PeterN <>
    > wrote:
    > : On 10/16/2013 4:06 PM, Mort wrote:
    > : > PeterN wrote:
    > : >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    > : >>
    > : >>
    > : >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    > : >>
    > : >
    > : > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or
    > mating,
    > : > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King
    > Kong
    > : > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    > : >
    > : > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    > : >
    > : > Mort Linder
    > :
    > : We should distinguish gorillas from chimps. Both are apes. Both are
    > : omnivores, but a gorillas non-vegatarian diet consists of insects and
    > : slugs. You are correct that gorrrillas are generally peaceful and will
    > : try to avoid conflict. Chimps on the other hand can be quite vicious.
    > : They also are meat hunters.
    > : <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html>
    > :
    > : iIRC they are genetically the closest mamal to humans, having about 96%
    > : of our genes in common.
    > : Chimps have also been known to start unprovoked attacks on people.
    > : They don't make good pets.
    >
    > They're very nervous and defensive. There was a case in Connecticut a few
    > years ago wherein a chimp bit the face off of one of his owner's good
    > friends.
    > (She later had a face transplant which could be considered successful if
    > the
    > chimp has not bitten out her eyes in the process.) The friend had gotten
    > between the chimp and his owner, and he thereupon went berserk.
    >
    > But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.
    >

    I have a friend who had a chimp as a pet many years ago. From the stories
    he tells, they definitely are not very good pets at all. Stories of the
    chimp climbing the curtains and wrecking havoc on the living room were the
    norm. lol.
     
    Tim Conway, Oct 18, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    On 10/18/2013 4:31 PM, YouDontNeedToKnowButItsNoëlle wrote:
    > Le 18/10/13 04:31, Robert Coe a écrit :
    >
    >> But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.

    >
    > But halas, the opposite is far too common.
    >
    > Noëlle Adam


    And for no good reason.


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    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Oct 18, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    On 2013-10-18 14:04:40 -0700, PeterN <> said:

    > On 10/18/2013 4:31 PM, YouDontNeedToKnowButItsNoëlle wrote:
    >> Le 18/10/13 04:31, Robert Coe a écrit :
    >>
    >>> But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.

    >>
    >> But halas, the opposite is far too common.
    >>
    >> Noëlle Adam

    >
    > And for no good reason.


    Those who would protect them have also been subject to violence by poachers.
    I would give you the story of Diane Fossey and numerous park rangers
    murdered by gorilla poachers. These individuals trap the apes with wire
    snares and harvest paws & heads, and will murder, or conspire to
    murder, those who try to protect the gorillas.

    < https://awionline.org/awi-quarterly/2001-fall/murder-mist-solved >
    < http://www.wwf.org.uk/wwf_articles.cfm?unewsid=5315 >
    <
    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/07/virunga/stirton-photography#/1-gorilla-portrait-475.jpg
    >

    <
    http://ens-newswire.com/2012/10/25/eight-dead-in-attack-on-virunga-national-park-rangers/
    >


    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Oct 18, 2013
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  13. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:31:31 -0400, PeterN <>
    wrote:
    : On 10/17/2013 10:31 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
    : > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:02:27 -0400, PeterN <>
    : > wrote:
    : > : On 10/16/2013 4:06 PM, Mort wrote:
    : > : > PeterN wrote:
    : > : >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    : > : >>
    : > : >>
    : > : >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    : > : >>
    : > : >
    : > : > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or mating,
    : > : > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King Kong
    : > : > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    : > : >
    : > : > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    : > : >
    : > : > Mort Linder
    : > :
    : > : We should distinguish gorillas from chimps. Both are apes. Both are
    : > : omnivores, but a gorillas non-vegatarian diet consists of insects and
    : > : slugs. You are correct that gorrrillas are generally peaceful and will
    : > : try to avoid conflict. Chimps on the other hand can be quite vicious.
    : > : They also are meat hunters.
    : > : <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html>
    : > :
    : > : iIRC they are genetically the closest mamal to humans, having about 96%
    : > : of our genes in common.
    : > : Chimps have also been known to start unprovoked attacks on people.
    : > : They don't make good pets.
    : >
    : > They're very nervous and defensive. There was a case in Connecticut a few
    : > years ago wherein a chimp bit the face off of one of his owner's good friends.
    : > (She later had a face transplant which could be considered successful if the
    : > chimp has not bitten out her eyes in the process.) The friend had gotten
    : > between the chimp and his owner, and he thereupon went berserk.
    : >
    : > But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.
    : >
    : > Bob
    : >
    :
    : Indeed A few years ago a toddler fell into a gorilla enclosure. One of
    : the females picked it up, cuddled it, and would not let any of the other
    : gorillas near it. The whole story ended quite well. I don't recall what
    : the keepers did, but they got unharmed the toddler back.
     
    Robert Coe, Oct 18, 2013
    #33
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    PeterN Guest

    On 10/18/2013 4:56 PM, Tim Conway wrote:
    > "Robert Coe" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:02:27 -0400, PeterN <>
    >> wrote:
    >> : On 10/16/2013 4:06 PM, Mort wrote:
    >> : > PeterN wrote:
    >> : >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    >> : >>
    >> : >>
    >> : >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    >> : >>
    >> : >
    >> : > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or
    >> mating,
    >> : > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King
    >> Kong
    >> : > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    >> : >
    >> : > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    >> : >
    >> : > Mort Linder
    >> :
    >> : We should distinguish gorillas from chimps. Both are apes. Both are
    >> : omnivores, but a gorillas non-vegatarian diet consists of insects and
    >> : slugs. You are correct that gorrrillas are generally peaceful and will
    >> : try to avoid conflict. Chimps on the other hand can be quite vicious.
    >> : They also are meat hunters.
    >> : <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html>
    >> :
    >> : iIRC they are genetically the closest mamal to humans, having about 96%
    >> : of our genes in common.
    >> : Chimps have also been known to start unprovoked attacks on people.
    >> : They don't make good pets.
    >>
    >> They're very nervous and defensive. There was a case in Connecticut a few
    >> years ago wherein a chimp bit the face off of one of his owner's good
    >> friends.
    >> (She later had a face transplant which could be considered successful if
    >> the
    >> chimp has not bitten out her eyes in the process.) The friend had gotten
    >> between the chimp and his owner, and he thereupon went berserk.
    >>
    >> But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.
    >>

    > I have a friend who had a chimp as a pet many years ago. From the stories
    > he tells, they definitely are not very good pets at all. Stories of the
    > chimp climbing the curtains and wrecking havoc on the living room were the
    > norm. lol.
    >
    >

    my guess is that your friend had very little glassware.


    --
    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Oct 18, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    On 10/18/2013 6:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2013-10-18 14:04:40 -0700, PeterN <> said:
    >
    >> On 10/18/2013 4:31 PM, YouDontNeedToKnowButItsNoëlle wrote:
    >>> Le 18/10/13 04:31, Robert Coe a écrit :
    >>>
    >>>> But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.
    >>>
    >>> But halas, the opposite is far too common.
    >>>
    >>> Noëlle Adam

    >>
    >> And for no good reason.

    >
    > Those who would protect them have also been subject to violence by
    > poachers.
    > I would give you the story of Diane Fossey and numerous park rangers
    > murdered by gorilla poachers. These individuals trap the apes with wire
    > snares and harvest paws & heads, and will murder, or conspire to murder,
    > those who try to protect the gorillas.
    >
    > < https://awionline.org/awi-quarterly/2001-fall/murder-mist-solved >
    > < http://www.wwf.org.uk/wwf_articles.cfm?unewsid=5315 >
    > <
    > http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/07/virunga/stirton-photography#/1-gorilla-portrait-475.jpg
    >
    >>

    > <
    > http://ens-newswire.com/2012/10/25/eight-dead-in-attack-on-virunga-national-park-rangers/


    There is an old African saying, that when elephants fight, the grass
    gets crushed. If this case it's the innocent people and the gorillas who
    suffer. I can understand why those starving people are willing to do
    almost any kind of work, just to stay alive. It's not an easy problem to
    solve.

    --
    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Oct 18, 2013
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    Robert Coe Guest

    On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:31:31 -0400, PeterN <>
    wrote:
    : On 10/17/2013 10:31 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
    : > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:02:27 -0400, PeterN <>
    : > wrote:
    : > : On 10/16/2013 4:06 PM, Mort wrote:
    : > : > PeterN wrote:
    : > : >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    : > : >>
    : > : >>
    : > : >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    : > : >>
    : > : >
    : > : > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or mating,
    : > : > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King Kong
    : > : > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    : > : >
    : > : > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    : > : >
    : > : > Mort Linder
    : > :
    : > : We should distinguish gorillas from chimps. Both are apes. Both are
    : > : omnivores, but a gorillas non-vegatarian diet consists of insects and
    : > : slugs. You are correct that gorrrillas are generally peaceful and will
    : > : try to avoid conflict. Chimps on the other hand can be quite vicious.
    : > : They also are meat hunters.
    : > : <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html>
    : > :
    : > : iIRC they are genetically the closest mamal to humans, having about 96%
    : > : of our genes in common.
    : > : Chimps have also been known to start unprovoked attacks on people.
    : > : They don't make good pets.
    : >
    : > They're very nervous and defensive. There was a case in Connecticut a few
    : > years ago wherein a chimp bit the face off of one of his owner's good friends.
    : > (She later had a face transplant which could be considered successful if the
    : > chimp has not bitten out her eyes in the process.) The friend had gotten
    : > between the chimp and his owner, and he thereupon went berserk.
    : >
    : > But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.
    : >
    : > Bob
    : >
    :
    : Indeed A few years ago a toddler fell into a gorilla enclosure. One of
    : the females picked it up, cuddled it, and would not let any of the other
    : gorillas near it. The whole story ended quite well. I don't recall what
    : the keepers did, but they got unharmed the toddler back.

    That's actually happened more than once. In each case one of the gorillas
    picked up the child and carried him/her to the enclosure's entrance and handed
    him to a zoo worker. That's not the best thing to do in such a case; EMTs
    prefer not to have the victim moved, in case there are broken bones or
    internal injuries. But the gorillas don't know this and think they're being
    helpful.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Oct 18, 2013
    #36
  17. PeterN

    Tim Conway Guest

    "PeterN" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 10/18/2013 4:56 PM, Tim Conway wrote:
    >> "Robert Coe" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:02:27 -0400, PeterN <>
    >>> wrote:
    >>> : On 10/16/2013 4:06 PM, Mort wrote:
    >>> : > PeterN wrote:
    >>> : >> foe some reason I would not like to tangle with this guy
    >>> : >>
    >>> : >>
    >>> : >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/gorilla111.jpg>
    >>> : >>
    >>> : >
    >>> : > As I understand it, apes are vegetarians, and unless provoked or
    >>> mating,
    >>> : > are rather peaceful creatures who sleep a lot. Movies such as King
    >>> Kong
    >>> : > gave them a bad name, above and beyond what they deserve.
    >>> : >
    >>> : > As they say in Brooklyn, Pretty they ain't.
    >>> : >
    >>> : > Mort Linder
    >>> :
    >>> : We should distinguish gorillas from chimps. Both are apes. Both are
    >>> : omnivores, but a gorillas non-vegatarian diet consists of insects and
    >>> : slugs. You are correct that gorrrillas are generally peaceful and will
    >>> : try to avoid conflict. Chimps on the other hand can be quite vicious.
    >>> : They also are meat hunters.
    >>> : <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html>
    >>> :
    >>> : iIRC they are genetically the closest mamal to humans, having about
    >>> 96%
    >>> : of our genes in common.
    >>> : Chimps have also been known to start unprovoked attacks on people.
    >>> : They don't make good pets.
    >>>
    >>> They're very nervous and defensive. There was a case in Connecticut a
    >>> few
    >>> years ago wherein a chimp bit the face off of one of his owner's good
    >>> friends.
    >>> (She later had a face transplant which could be considered successful if
    >>> the
    >>> chimp has not bitten out her eyes in the process.) The friend had gotten
    >>> between the chimp and his owner, and he thereupon went berserk.
    >>>
    >>> But an attack on a human by a gorilla is exceedingly rare.
    >>>

    >> I have a friend who had a chimp as a pet many years ago. From the
    >> stories
    >> he tells, they definitely are not very good pets at all. Stories of the
    >> chimp climbing the curtains and wrecking havoc on the living room were
    >> the
    >> norm. lol.
    >>
    >>

    > my guess is that your friend had very little glassware.
    >
    >

    Yep. He likened it to having a two year old that never grew up.
     
    Tim Conway, Oct 19, 2013
    #37
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