ATTN: Ken Burns- whats that cat/isbn/asin # for the Kodak Book on stripping emulsion from base? :)

Discussion in 'Kodak' started by Some Dude, Jan 5, 2004.

  1. Water intoxication is real... It can come from over ingestion of water, e.g.
    in marathon runners and in mental disturbances, a condition called
    polydipsia... It sometimes happens to hospitalized patients with multiple IV
    lines dripping fluids into them - especially dangerous for premature
    infants and small children - and in adults, females seem more susceptable
    than males - ...

    It causes changes in the pH of the blood, and in the crystaloid to protein
    ratio which disrupts a part of the bodies fluid balance mechanism that we
    call oncotic pressure, which controls swelling of the body tissues... This
    can lead to severe electrolyte imbalances with hyponatremia (low sodium
    concentration) being the major threat, leading to (among other things)
    cardiac arrythmias (disturbances of the hearts rhythm), cerebral edema
    (swelling of the brain), and to fluid weeping into the lung spaces from the
    blood vessels (pulmonary edema)... In an extreme case one could drown from
    the inside...
    Denny
     
    Dennis O'Connor, Jan 6, 2004
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    Some Dude Guest

    Exactly my results.



     
    Some Dude, Jan 6, 2004
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  3. Are you sure you are not talking about carbon dioxide, CO2? While we
    might exhale a bit of CO, I imagine it would be a bit less than we inhale.
     
    Jean-David Beyer, Jan 6, 2004
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  4. Probably untreated diabetes. Did she always have a drink (non-alcoholic)
    in her hand?
     
    Nicholas O. Lindan, Jan 6, 2004
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  5. Clean, safe water (as most is) won't give you cancer, but it is certainly
    possible to overdrink it. The human body needs so much water, like many
    substances. We would die without salt just as surely as without water, but
    too much of either will kill us too.

    Jim
     
    Jim MacKenzie, Jan 6, 2004
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  6. Some Dude

    Ken Burns Guest

    That's the book I have, but mine is even older, 1987. I would think they
    cover the process in newer versions, but I'm not sure. The solvent they
    recommend using is 2-butanone which was available directly from Kodak way
    back then.

    KB
     
    Ken Burns, Jan 6, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    She was probably a diabetic. Acetone breath is common in that condition. Means
    your BGs are out of control and you need insulin.

    <quote>
    Acetone
    A chemical formed in the blood when the body uses fat instead of glucose
    (sugar) for energy. If acetone
    forms, it usually means that the cells do not have enough insulin, or cannot
    use the insulin that is in
    the blood, to use glucose for energy. Acetone passes through the body into
    the urine. Someone with a
    lot of acetone in the body can have breath that smells fruity and is called
    "acetone breath."
    <unquote>

    Bert
     
    Guest, Jan 6, 2004
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  8. Some Dude

    Guest Guest

    Credit, please...

    "I don't drink water. Fish f*ck in it." WC Fields

    Bert
     
    Guest, Jan 6, 2004
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    Tom Phillips Guest

    Being a runner, I was in fact referring to hyponatraemia, something
    which usually occurs in conjunction with prolonged sweating (loss of
    salts.) The danger of drinking too much water (minus adequate
    electrolyte replacement) is as you say it dilutes sodium and potassium
    levels in the body and can result in arrhythmia or cerebral edema. It's
    often mistaken for dehydration and the victim given even more water. A
    friend of mine in fact suffered a heart attack due to this. I've heard
    it can result in pulmonary edema, but (not being a physician) I
    understand edema to be only one of the many complications of
    hyponatraemia. I don't think death results from just edema, but a number
    of associated complications.


    It sometimes happens to hospitalized patients with multiple IV
     
    Tom Phillips, Jan 6, 2004
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    jjs Guest

    Oh no! He's a runner! Well you can run. I'll hide.
     
    jjs, Jan 6, 2004
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    Matt Clara Guest

    Yes, but I'm not so quick to write the process off. It does separate the
    emulsion from the base, all you need now is a second step that preserves the
    emulsion after removing it from the acetone. Perhaps immediately dunking it
    in mineral oil, or even olive oil!?
     
    Matt Clara, Jan 6, 2004
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    geo Guest

    Oh, there's a great statistical sample. There's an interesting psychological
    dynamic when people won't acknowledge real risks. It's called denial. Maybe
    it's a "macho" thing. "I'm such a big strong guy nothing's going to happen
    to me. So I'm a 109 lbs overweight, and I smoke - big deal. I won't get
    cancer or a heart attack." To wear a seat belt you must first acknowledge
    that you are vulnerable; a difficult thing for some people. They prefer
    their cherished delusion of invulnerability. There's another dynamic
    involved: Darwinism. Those with a highly developed sense of denial generally
    engage in higher risk activities and don't take proper precautions like
    wearing seatbelts and therefore have a higher mortality and morbidity rate.
    Statistically speaking there are generally fewer breeding opportunities when
    you're dead. Maybe that's why more & more people are wearing seatbelts.

    Natural Light Black and White Photography
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    -George-
     
    geo, Jan 6, 2004
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    Some Dude Guest

    Cool thanks..Ordering now...



     
    Some Dude, Jan 7, 2004
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  14. Some Dude

    Some Dude Guest

    Not writing it off. Just not interested in spending the time figuring
    it out as its part of a much, much larger project. If Kodak has
    something that'll do it now, i'll pay for it :)

    However, saying that, if you do figure it out i'd love to hear how you
    did it!

    Cheers
     
    Some Dude, Jan 7, 2004
    #34
  15. I get into this discussion about lebenty times a day... "My uncle George
    eats fried bacon three meals a day, smokes 8 cigars a day, drinks like a
    fish,and is 94 years old, so why should I go hungry, make myself crazy
    trying to quit smoking, and waste my money on this Lipitor stuff, hey?"...

    But, when I start making specific inquiries, I find that George's brother
    popped off at 51 from an MI, and his sister at 65, etc., etc... George is
    simply the survivor in the family who got the lucky roll of the genetic
    dice...

    Denny
     
    Dennis O'Connor, Jan 7, 2004
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    Matt Clara Guest

    Oh, so you want real-world results in a realistic time frame, huh?
    Can't help you there!
    ;-)
     
    Matt Clara, Jan 8, 2004
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