Australian Maritime Museum (Sydney)

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by David Springthorpe, Jun 1, 2005.

  1. I thought I'd go as I've never visited before. The website says photography
    allowed but no flash or tripods (for amateur photography) allowed. I
    particularly want to catch the James Craig and the Endeavor - still worth taking
    my SLR ?

    David Springthorpe, Jun 1, 2005
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  2. David Springthorpe

    Greg Guest

    I found a very similar problem whilst I was on holiday in New Zealand
    last year...

    "No flash allowed" made taking photos of old planes inside a hanger
    without windows very hard. My solution either by a mini tripod with
    flexible legs and use a compact comera (inca makes the tripods for
    about $15 and are only a few cm's high) or find a flat surface, frame,
    turn flash off, and use remote release or 10 second self timer.

    I was lucky as there were not many people around so I got some
    fantastic shots of some old warbirds.

    Although I am a die hard SLR user, I found the compact digital that I
    had bought for my wife very handy for this type of situation.

    Good luck.
    Greg, Jun 2, 2005
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  3. It is surprising what a program like neat image can do with removing
    noise. I recently shot some Photos inside an old destroyer using ISO
    1600 with a Canon 20D. Even at ISO 800 I got some good shots although
    the shutter shudder of a 20D does not help at slow speeds. Methinks an
    IS lens would make a big difference in these situations.
    [email protected], Jun 2, 2005
  4. Dare I admit it - I'm still on film only (EOS 30 / 300V).....but a 20D would be

    David Springthorpe, Jun 2, 2005
  5. David Springthorpe

    unners Guest

    how about a nice 10d :D
    unners, Jun 2, 2005
  6. How much do you want for it Unners?
    I got some spare cash and I've bee longing for another 10D ever since I
    sold mine.
    [email protected], Jun 2, 2005
  7. So what about some Kodak Max 800 film?
    The shutter on a EOS 30 is a sweet shooter with minimal shudder 1/30th
    shutter speed is in the realm of hand holding with a short lens. Or you
    might get hold of some 1600 ISO Fuji stuff. I can offer you some neat
    tricks to get pretty decent enlargements - 20"x30" no worries from 800
    ISO and maybe as much from 1600 ISO if you over expose it half a stop or so.
    [email protected], Jun 2, 2005
  8. David Springthorpe

    unners Guest


    looking for $1000. thought that was a good price but haven't had any
    takers as yet.

    unners, Jun 2, 2005
  9. You're not the only one with a 10D asking a grand and getting nowhere. I
    sold my 10D a week before the 20D was available and got $2300 for it. I
    guess timing is critical in this business.

    I personally feel the 10D's value right now is closer to $800. Maybe by
    Xmas they might go up a bit but there are just too many on offer and no
    takers. Anyway, let me know if you want to compromise, eh?
    [email protected], Jun 2, 2005
  10. I could only find one 10D going on eBay Australia.....

    David Springthorpe, Jun 2, 2005
  11. Try strolling down Elizabeth Street in Melbourne. All the dealers start
    shaking at the knees when you mention selling a 10D. My friend's wife
    got offered $450 for her 10D last week.

    Ebay is probably Australia's most expensive place to buy a camera you
    haven't seen, don't know it works and have to take a stranger's word it
    isn't stolen or otherwise compromised. But wait there's more!

    You have to pay for in advance and spend the days between buying and
    (hopefully) getting wondering if the guy you bought it from is carrying
    his own insurance or you will have to rely on Aus Post's $200 max damage

    I am absolutely amazed at the posts in these groups about wanker shop
    assistants or shocking service at camera shops when at least you know
    you can make judgments without fraud. The exact same people don't have a
    problem buying from some Hong Kong Shonkie who's sending you a "free
    gift" with your $2500 camera to evade customs and squirm out of their
    "No GST guaranteed" claim when you get hit for 10% on top and fine for
    evasion. Amazing place the Internet.
    [email protected], Jun 2, 2005
  12. Is the 20D so much better than the 10D that I should save up for the former ?

    David Springthorpe, Jun 3, 2005
  13. David Springthorpe

    unners Guest

    the 20d is a better camera, there's no doubt about that. only things in
    favour of the 10d would be build quality and the battery grip. and the
    quieter shutter i guess.

    but i don't personally think its a $1500 better camera. then again i
    am selling a 10d so i might be biased :) you can get a very good lens
    for the difference in price and that will hold its value a lot better
    than either camera. 20d's will be going for $1K in a year, you should
    never buy a digi-cam as an investment.

    as for current 10d prices, one's on ebay are going for over $1K and any
    advertised in the trading post or are well over that.
    not sure where the $800 figure came from.
    unners, Jun 3, 2005
  14. David Springthorpe

    Greg Guest

    Interesting thoughts on ebay and internet shopping... Is it all theory
    or you have you actually had a bad experience?

    My 10D came off ebay, and I picked it up from the seller so I got to
    see it. Saved me about $200 at the time. Madsens online has aved me
    some $$ on filters. Genuine accessories from os are about half the
    price of what they are here. Having said that, my last and my next
    lens will be coming from a retailer for a couple of reasons. The price
    is good, and on an L series lens, it isn't cheaper to buy a new one if
    the one delivered from os is faulty, so the warranty is important. On
    accessories, if it doesn't work, throw it away and buy another and it
    is still cheaper than buying here (eg, original canon remote shutter
    release bought os and imported in at $55 Au, cost in oz = $120 Au).

    So it really does depend on what you need, where you buy it and how
    much you want to spend. Always do your homework. Ebay does offer buyer
    protection too. Very few dodgy sellers on ebay now as they don't last

    Greg, Jun 3, 2005
  15. I don't disagree with you about the difference on value. The 10D I
    bought cost me over $3400 and I didn't get a lens! The 20D cost $2360
    and I got a lens!. If I had to choose between a 10D with a 24~70 f2.8 L
    series lens and a 20D with a plastic lens, I'd go for the 10D but I'd be
    awfully sure of it's shutter clicks. Some only last 30,000 clicks and
    the cost of a new shutter/mirror assembly is $850.

    The $800 figure I value 10Ds at comes from 2 Ebay sales in the last
    month which were under $950. Take away the Ebay share of sales
    commission and advertising fees and $800 is not so shabby chic for an
    unknown camera.

    Put it Ebay. Who knows, you might get your money... Less advertising and
    commissions, I guess if the high bid is $1000 you might end up with $925
    or so.
    [email protected], Jun 3, 2005
  16. David Springthorpe

    unners Guest

    i don't like ebay much either, hence the reason i'm still trying to sell

    i'm definitely open to interesting trade offers as the money will only
    be put back into photography equipment anyway.

    my apologies for hijacking your thread too david.

    have a good weekend all

    dave :)
    unners, Jun 3, 2005
  17. David Springthorpe

    prep Guest

    Why would you replace the mirror box as well? A shutter is about $150
    I think. Not sure what needs replacing, you could possibly do it for
    less in parts, but labour costs could eat the difference.

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  18. David Springthorpe

    Bruce Graham Guest

    I just downloaded a new version 5.0 of NeatImage - haven't tried it yet
    but they claim it is even better than the old one. I thought that was
    brilliant for cleaning up scans from my EOS30 - but scanning sure takes

    Ryadia, you didn't mention the Fuji 800 and I have never tried the Kodak
    800 you suggest. Do you have a clear preference?
    Bruce Graham, Jun 3, 2005
  19. Yeah... Sure do.
    I don't like the way Fuji 800 renders green. IMO the Kodak films (all of
    them) are almost as close to natures colours as the Agfa Pro films which
    I used to use exclusively in the dim days of Sunnies at night when you
    exited the darkroom!
    [email protected], Jun 4, 2005
  20. When you figure out how to take a picture without moving the mirror,
    maybe you'll have the answer to your own question.
    [email protected], Jun 4, 2005
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