Aviation related Videos created with Windows Movie Maker.

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by atlieb, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. atlieb

    atlieb Guest

    Aviation related videos


    Various videos from preflight, takeoff, enroute, instrument approaches
    in clouds to shut down and everything in between. Some to music, some

    Comments most welcome on technique creation.

    atlieb, Nov 28, 2007
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    nappy Guest

    First thing.
    Try doing it again with just cross dissolves instead of the fancy
    transitions. Everyone has seen them already and they take too long. We've
    all been there. First timers always use those crazy transitions!
    nappy, Nov 28, 2007
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  3. Is a 'cross dissolve' what my Womble Wizard calls 'Blend' please? Or
    maybe 'Fade'?
    Terry Pinnell, Nov 28, 2007
  4. That would be a fade. And usually any dissolve should be avoided, as they
    render horribly for webvideo.


    Martin Heffels, Nov 28, 2007
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    nappy Guest

    Well.. a fade is not a transition though!
    nappy, Nov 28, 2007
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    Scubajam Guest

    As a pilot, Cessna 172 owner, and long time videographer I enjoyed,
    but found some to be too long.

    1) Good advice on transitions. The general rule - if you have good
    content do as the pros do - watch movies and commercial TV and see,
    only cuts, fades, cross-fades. If your content is crap, spice it up
    with amateur transitions. Now - once in a great while you'll see a
    more elaborate transition used professionally. Usually they choose a
    "signature" transition and use it consistently, or something related
    to content, as a clockwise change to indicate passage of time. As in
    any art form, once you know the rule and can do it by the rules, then
    feel free to break them if you know what you're doing and exactly what
    result you are trying for. It's not that it's a "rule" but more that
    such transitions are distracting. Personally, I could not watch all
    Stairway to Heaven as the transitions were too slow and very

    2) You do realize you are violating copyright laws? Violation of
    youTube content rules, etc. Yeah, thousands do it also. You PROBABLY
    won't get into trouble doing just this, but don't ever make a
    presentation to a public audience or especially offer anything for
    sale with commercial, copyrighted music. Huge no-no. Certainly
    commercial music is great, that's why it was successful. Certainly it
    matches the mood, that's why it was successful and tugs at emotions.
    But it isn't yours to use. If you purchased the music, make your
    video and only you listen to it, then MAYBE it's OK, at least you have
    an out in court if it should ever come to that (which it probably
    won't). Same thing as making the video with no soundtrack, then just
    play your CD as you watch it. But don't give a copy to anyone else,
    or show to anyone who hasn't also purchased the music. And, if you
    try to get a local musician, you'll also need permission to use it
    from the artist, the writer, arranger, etc. I have permission from
    one artist to use his scuba songs with my underwater videos, but he
    made the point I can only use songs he wrote, not those written by
    others. I also use the free computer generated music, although there
    are caveats on that for commercial use; and often use military bands
    available mp3's on the internet. They only put classics on the net
    for download, and the arrranging and artist fees are paid by our tax $
    $ and so it is ours to use. Lots of it is bugles and marches, but a
    lot isn't. Most bands have quartets, jazz ensembles, solos, etc.

    3) I see most videos are from right seat, so I presume you are flying
    left seat. You should get name of videographer for possible future
    credits. And either pay them and/or get permission slips. While you
    are obviously director, editor, producer, it seems someone else
    actually held the camera. Credit as camera person should be added,
    when you get to the point of adding credits.

    Please don't take this as too harsh. Obviously you have good comments
    and your audience likes what you do. Just a suggestion on
    transitions, and advice to keep you legal on copyright. I've also
    been known to use unauthorized music, but now try to avoid it. Still,
    it's definitely hard sometimes. Just be aware of the risks, and don't
    ever try to sell, that's where the big problems are. They've been
    busting mp3 share sites users, including those who download as well as
    upload lately; shows they're getting serious. CD sales are down so
    the big brands are looking for a new revenue stream. Let's not be
    part of it.

    Jim McGauhey
    Washington State
    search youTube for scubajam

    See Cassandra Flies, one I made for her to show her sons serving in
    Scubajam, Nov 28, 2007
  7. It is classified as a transition in Womble MPEG Video Wizard!
    Terry Pinnell, Nov 28, 2007
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    nappy Guest

    nappy, Nov 28, 2007
  9. Fade to another picture. But, as nappy might have meant, it could be
    fade-to-black. Blewdy terminology ;-)

    Martin Heffels, Nov 28, 2007
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    atlieb Guest

    Thanks for the feedback!

    In my later videos, such as
    and I got rid of the crazy
    transitions and went to the fades, whether it be dissolve or gradual

    On I found the fades more

    I kinda got tired of my own videos with the crazy transisitions as you
    said :)) So in the last two months, just primarily been sticking
    with the fades and dissolves.

    atlieb, Nov 28, 2007
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    atlieb Guest

    As a pilot, Cessna 172 owner, and long time videographer I enjoyed,
    Hey Jim,

    Thanks for the feedback! I haven't found that happy medium on length
    yet, as you are right, some are too long. I think my limits are
    around 2 to 3 minutes on a typical You Tube video, so I am now trying
    to keep them shorter. You probably will notice that on my later
    videos :)
    Yes, after reading the fiasco about Prince and a baby dancing to his
    music being posted to You Tube, I kinda found out that indeed, I am
    "beyond" pushing the limits of fair use.
    We sure do live in a crazy world, as I never would have thought of
    this since it was my camera being used.
    Yes, I knew selling was taboo, as I have been asked by many people to
    make them movie videos for family events and stuff, and I declined. I
    did it for free as long as they provided the CD though, and chalked it
    up as experience.

    I do appreciate this input, I wouldn't have posted if I didn't expect
    to learn from others!

    atlieb, Nov 28, 2007
  12. Yes, Womble uses the term 'Fade' ambiguously.

    In its Effects pane, one of the 47 entries is 'Fade'. If I drag it to
    the timeline between clips it gives a 1 sec (default) transition. I
    just tried it between two JPGs, a plain orange and a plain blue.
    Stepping through the transition from orange, I see a few shades of
    pink and purple until the blue appears (no black).

    While I was at it, I repeated the test with the 'Blend' transition,
    and I'm darned if I can see any difference! Here are the two MPEGs
    (total under 1 MB)

    Returning to the ambiguity I mentioned. If instead of a transition I
    r-click the orange clip and select 'Fade...', and enter a fade-out of
    0.5, and similarly give the blue clip a fade-in of the same duration,
    then I get the expected fade to and from black.

    Up until this discussion, I'd always assumed that 'Fade' was giving me
    a fade-to-and-from-black. Never spotted that wasn't so in my finished
    family DVDs. If it really is identical to 'Blend', then looks like a
    mistake by Womble? If so, I'll drop them an email. That would of
    course also remove the ambiguity: 'fade' would mean 'fade to/from
    black', as I gather from your post that it's supposed to in
    professional terminology?
    Terry Pinnell, Nov 29, 2007
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