B&H has the Nikon D700 in stock

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Andrew Koenig, Jul 25, 2008.

  1. Of course they'll probably sell them all by the time you read this, but I
    thought you'd like to know.
     
    Andrew Koenig, Jul 25, 2008
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  2. Old news! Ritz camera had them for the last two days.




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    Rita Berkowitz, Jul 26, 2008
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    Dave Busch Guest

    I've had mine since Friday. So far, I think it's clever the way Nikon
    implemented so many D300 controls on the D700 (e.g. zoom during
    picture review, mode dial buttons, bracketing) so we'd instantly know
    whether we're using a D3 or D700. I'd hate it if both my FX cameras
    operated exactly the same.

    Dave
     
    Dave Busch, Jul 28, 2008
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  4. Congrats. It does seem like a sweet camera from what I've read and the
    image quality is great. Since I'm dragging my feet on the purchase of one,
    wouldn't you know it, everyone has them in stock. Nikon is getting so much
    better on their distribution of dSLR bodies. Now if they can deliver those
    two lenses I'm waiting on.



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    Rita Berkowitz, Jul 28, 2008
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    Andy Hall Guest

    Which lenses are they?
     
    Andy Hall, Jul 29, 2008
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    Andy Hall Guest

    Which lenses are they?
     
    Andy Hall, Jul 29, 2008
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    Me Guest

    I'm guessing that they overestimated demand.
    The shortage of lenses probably indicates that they sold a lot of D3s,
    though Nikon have been slow on lens deliveries in the past.
    $3k / $4.5k - not really that much difference in price if it's a work
    tool - they've already saturated some of the pro market, but $3k is
    still a hefty price tag for most amateurs, especially when many wouldn't
    be happy to see the expected 24mp FX released soon.
     
    Me, Jul 29, 2008
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  8. I suspect D700 prices will drop to about $2,500 before the end of the year.
    I don't think Nikon overestimated demand; they just underestimated the
    crappy US dollar. The D3 did quench the FF lust that every Nikon shooter
    had. I'm not sure it had a major impact on D700 sales. I wouldn't think a
    24MP FX would make anyone unhappy. The people that need it will buy it and
    use it.




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    Rita Berkowitz, Jul 29, 2008
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  9. One of them is the 400/2.8.



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    Me Guest

    I doubt it. The D3 price has only dropped slightly, only a little more
    than the cost of the "free" capture NX.
    Perhaps they should have made it in Thailand.
    The D3 did quench the FF lust that every Nikon shooter
    Perception - not reality - matters. When >20mp Fx is commonplace, 12mp
    FX will seem like 6mp Dx does now - the few who realise that it doesn't
    matter much will be a minority.
     
    Me, Jul 29, 2008
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    Andy Hall Guest

    I see.

    Have you tried this one out? Ignoring the differences of having f2.8
    and speed of autofocus, have you used and compared with the 80/400 zoom?

    The reason for the question is that I have been looking at 400-600
    prime lenses for wildlife work. Thus far, a 70/200 with
    teleconverter hasn't done a bad job but I am looking at options for
    improvement.

    Any thoughts?
     
    Andy Hall, Jul 30, 2008
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    D-Mac Guest

    Far be it for me to butt in and rock the boat but... Plenty of people
    are thrilled to bits with the results from their Sigma 120-300 F/2.8.
    Some sports shooters say it's up there with prime lens quality. I was
    certainly blown away by it's images compared to the Canon 20 - 200 F/2.8
    with 2X converter I had previously used. It's only drawback (if you do
    much work hand held) is no VR or IS system.

    I recently sold mine. I used it on a Canon 20D and 5D, sometimes with a
    2x converter for shooting birds and speed boats. I seriously believe if
    funding is tight, these $2500 lenses just can't be ignored. The thing to
    be aware of is if you need a polariser, it will cost you serious money
    due to the front element size but gathering light was never cheap.
     
    D-Mac, Jul 30, 2008
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    Andy Hall Guest

    That's OK.

    I'm not really doing action stuff - at least not in the fast sports sense.
    300 is really too short for my needs so would need to go with a
    teleconverter. In the Nikon range, I believe the 300mm prime is
    relatively physically small whereas the 500s etc. are fairly
    substantial in terms of size and weight.

    I'm not bothered about VR for a long focus lens because I would be
    using a tripod or beanbag anyway.
    I have used off-brand lenses before and had issues with autofocus and
    other functionality being not quite right, so I am somewhat reluctant
    to repeat that mistake. The lenses may cost somewhat less but if
    there's a problem it's very difficult to get it rectified. If I
    buy a Nikon camera and a Nikon lens, any issues are handled in one
    place.


    I have a Lee system.
     
    Andy Hall, Jul 30, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Sadly, the 70-200 seems to be getting sour reports on full frame digital
    corner sharpness (probably not a problem for wildlife in the center). I
    have one and an old beat up sports shooter's manual Tokina 300mm f/2.8
    ATX SD 'cult classic' with perfect glass. I'm thinking of replacing the
    300 with a Nikon VR... well dreaming really... The 300/2.8 is super
    useful; it's a very manageable size and a significant step up from the
    70-200 as far as reach, and does well with teleconverters, extension
    tubes, etc. The size is like a 70-200 with an iron coffee can on the
    front. I hardly use the 70-200 since I got that. I also have an ancient
    primitive beast of a Century 500mm f/4.5 which is amazing to use but
    ungodly useless off a tripod: CA is bad, blah blah blah but it is darn
    fun however the 300 is very reasonable to haul around in the woods hand
    held.

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    Paul Furman, Jul 30, 2008
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  15. No, I haven't compared the 80-400. I'm sticking with primes for all my long
    lenses. I even passed up the world famous 200-400/4 in favor of the 500/4.
    I'm extremely happy with my 500.
    I'm sure the 80-400 is a decent lens, but nothing beats the sharpness and
    contrast of these legendary long Nikkors. I've played with the 70-200/2.8
    and 2x TC with great results and will use this if I feel I need zoom. And
    beyond popular belief the 70-200/2.8 does extremely well on the FF.



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    Rita Berkowitz, Jul 30, 2008
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    Andy Hall Guest

    Thanks for that. Certainly (reasonable) portability is a factor.
    There's no point in having something that it is impractical to use in
    the field because of the weight. Which TC have you tried with the
    300? The 1.7, or the 2?
    Does the 500 give you substantially better results or is there not that
    much in it?
     
    Andy Hall, Jul 31, 2008
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    Andy Hall Guest

    OK, thanks for that.
     
    Andy Hall, Jul 31, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    1.4 and 2x with a little tab ground off to allow stacking them. The 500
    really is dramatically better than the 300 even though the 70-200 goes
    to 560mm with stacked converters. The 1.4 is really nice and
    surprisingly small. I was lucky to get it used for $50, a little metal
    rim was bent, easily bent back. The stacked TCs definitely take a lot
    out of image quality but testing, it really does resolve more detail
    assuming you are cropping and over-enlarging anyways. Absolute sharpness
    corner to corner suffers though.

    BTW I've got a D200 so 300mm looks like 450mm on full frame.

    Here's what you really need on a D3 (600mm f/4 VR):
    http://edgehill.net/gallery/photo-update/2-17-08/pg3pc15
    -that's a really wide angle shot & the angle exaggerates considerably
    but yes he was actually able to use it hand held on an experimental
    basis (rental). The last 2 sections are just lens shade and the 300 gets
    a whole lot bigger with the shade on too. Another guy on that outing had
    a 200-400 f/4 VR that he was very happy with for wildlife shooting. It
    was sort of a reasonable size.

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    Paul Furman, Jul 31, 2008
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    Andy Hall Guest

    Didn't know that one could do that.
    Yes, I have a D300.


    That was another one in the frame (as it were).
     
    Andy Hall, Jul 31, 2008
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  20. That's not the new VR version, that's the first AF-S version, an old but
    exceptionally good lens.



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