Bad HDR shot of the day

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by RichA, May 27, 2011.

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    Savageduck Guest

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    Mike Guest

    What's the difference between a BA in Visual Communictions, and a large
    pizza? A large pizza can feed a family of three...
    Mike, May 27, 2011
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    RichA Guest

    There was one guy from Henry's who took some interesting shots of
    power towers with large format gear. But the horrifying thing about
    gross HDR is that it has leaked into the professional realm, I'm
    seeing it show up in ads. Truly distressing.
    RichA, May 28, 2011
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    MC Guest

    It is if it is used "for the sake of". However, there are situations
    when a genuine need for HDR processing is required and absolutely no
    other method will produce the result needed. Having said that, it
    should only be used in extreme cases and only to obtain the actual HDR
    and not an overprocessed, unnatural eyesore. I do certainly object to
    some pro photographers (especially photo journalists) creating these
    "unnatural" looking images just for the sake of dramatic effect.

    MC, May 28, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    Agreed. There is a place for HDR, and results can be very effective,
    especially when it comes to artistic interpretation, and it can be used
    well in advertising copy. It does not have a place in photojournalism.
    HDR when used intelligently and not "over processed" is a useful tool.

    ....and the example provided in this thread is a poor, and unnecessary
    execution of HDR, resulting in an awful image of particularly
    uninteresting scene. There was about as much dramatic effect imparted
    to that scene as you would find in a bowl of oatmeal.
    Savageduck, May 28, 2011
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    RichA Guest

    I keep hearing that. Yet what I see in the magazines and such is
    mostly the silly, garish stuff.
    RichA, May 29, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

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    tony cooper Guest

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    Savageduck Guest

    That's OK, but then you are not much of a landscape type of guy. Your
    interests seem to be more with the odd and quirky character shots, a
    little urban decay, along with the passing parade.

    Here is one with a little rural decay. ;-)
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    Savageduck, May 29, 2011
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    tony cooper Guest

    That's true, but my "not much" means I don't have an interest in
    photographing landscape scenes. That doesn't mean I can't be
    appreciative of what others do when it's done right.

    To me, an interesting landscape has to have an interesting feature
    that prominently figures in. Your linked photo just snatches a wide
    field view of rocks and trees and includes a sky that doesn't look
    like sky.

    Yes, that does appeal to me a little bit more, but it's not a
    well-composed photograph. Is it a photo of an old tractor or a photo
    of a tractor out in a field and that is part of a landscape?

    The biggest problem for me is the disparity between the sky and the
    foreground. It's like the sky was shot on one day and the foreground
    on another. I don't know why HDR enthusiasts like dark and foreboding
    skies, especially when the other features of the image don't lend
    themselves to dark and foreboding.

    I would have shot the tractor much tighter or gone 'way back and shot
    the landscape with the tractor as man's contribution to the landscape
    and the impermanence of what man contributes compared to nature.

    The tractor is well done with the HDR treatment, but the rest of the
    shot competes too much with the tractor. Nature isn't this garish. I
    don't do HDR, and don't know if this is possible, but think this would
    be done better masking the tractor and treating only the tractor with
    the HDR effect and leaving the surroundings untouched. That would set
    off the tractor.
    tony cooper, May 29, 2011
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Heh, that area has spectacular pristine wildflower meadows, which you
    can see in the background. Those only exist where a tractor has never
    plowed, in the 400 years since the Spaniards arrived. That's the
    foreboding I see in the picture!
    Paul Furman, May 29, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    So perhaps this is the sort of treatment you are talking about?
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    Savageduck, May 29, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    That is out on Carrizo Plains, the Spring wild flowers there can be
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    Need I say, those are not HDR.

    The real foreboding is the San Andreas Fault Zone running about 800 to
    1000 yards behind the tractor, to the East of where I took the shot.

    ....and soon to the North of the National Monument, they will be
    installing a massive solar power generation array.
    Savageduck, May 29, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    On 2011-05-29 09:50:40 -0700, tony cooper <> said:
    Here is one without the "dark and foreboding" sky.
    ....and I don't think "HDR enthusiasts" necessarily like those "dark and
    foreboding skies."
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    Again there is certainly a time and place for HDR, it is just another
    tool I enjoy tinkering with.
    Savageduck, May 29, 2011
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    Eric Stevens Guest

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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Norman Rockwell?


    Eric Stevens
    Eric Stevens, May 29, 2011
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    tony cooper Guest

    That's much better. To me, the grass around the tractor is still too
    bright. Tone that down, and you have a good photograph.

    A question, the real grass the bright green or what I
    expect? I don't see real grass that is bright green like that, but
    that may be because of what I'm used to seeing here in Florida.
    tony cooper, May 29, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    I agree, That is a scene which always seems best in B&W, as does this one.
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    I was Just using the Valley shot as an HDR demo. Now that I can,
    whenever I am faced with a deep shadow and contrast situation as in
    that shot, I shoot a bracketed set for non-HDR exposure selection, or
    to play with HDR. That way I can do whatever I feel like once I get it
    into my computer.

    Over the years and the various trips up to Yosemite, I always try to
    get a few shots from "Tunnel View" and various other spots up there so
    that I can play Adams.
    Savageduck, May 29, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    That was Spring after a particularly wet Winter when the hills are
    almost radiant green. Three more weeks and you would be looking at
    Savageduck, May 29, 2011
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