BANG Canon fires back...BIG

Discussion in 'Canon' started by Mark M, Jan 29, 2004.

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    Mark M Guest

    Mark M, Jan 29, 2004
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    Bob Hickey Guest

    Makes a fiiiiine Christmas gift. Bob Hickey
     
    Bob Hickey, Jan 29, 2004
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  3. hoooo boyyyeee, FIVE GRAND for the body....
    And other than the shutter magnets and curtains, the rest of it is
    electronic chips and circuit boards, which are punched out at the rate of
    X-number a minute, by automated machinery...
    Five thousand bucks!!! So, how do you say, "Hey sailor, wanna get lucky?",
    in japanese??
    denny
     
    Dennis O'Connor, Jan 29, 2004
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    MG Guest

    Got punched out by $1800 extra.

    MLG
     
    MG, Jan 29, 2004
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    BFane Guest


    Canon's suggested prices tend to be about twice the street price. If the same
    holds here, the camera should be around $2,500.
     
    BFane, Jan 29, 2004
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    I kind of suspected that Canon would be coming out with something for the
    Olympics this year.
     
    Tony Spadaro, Jan 29, 2004
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    Omar gnihsif Guest

    so what cannon screwed its newest customers with castrated cameras for 999
    or 1500, now they buy nikon atleast the bodies hold value.
     
    Omar gnihsif, Jan 29, 2004
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  8. Yeah, heard 'bout that t'other day. I don't think it'll make press photogs
    leave the 1d, or put them off the D2h... why pay more money for 4 million
    pixels you don't need?

    Oh, and incidentally when did 28-300mm lenses get good enough to be called
    "L"?
     
    Martin Francis, Jan 29, 2004
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  9. Actually, thinking about it, 8mp might just be enough to convince a good
    proportion of potential 1Ds buyers to buy the cheaper 1DII.

    BANG!
    "Ouch! My own foot!"
     
    Martin Francis, Jan 29, 2004
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  10. Not megapixels, sensor size.

    Bill Tallman
     
    William D. Tallman, Jan 29, 2004
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    Gavin Cato Guest

    8mp @ 8fps is pretty cool. It's just a shame they didn't put some effort
    into the ergonomics and not just megapixels like the D2h had done to it.

    Gav
     
    Gavin Cato, Jan 29, 2004
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  12. True enough
     
    Martin Francis, Jan 29, 2004
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  13. Betcha the street is over $4... Jump to B&H or Adorama and look at the high
    end DSLR's and the street's are already pushing the high three's...
    Anyway, regardless of the ratio between MSRP and street, the digi shooters
    are getting hosed so bad....

    Course, it could be worse, they could buying a 6008 @ $6K street, for a
    body, a normal lens, and one back and this isn't even new technology... Talk
    about gluttons for punishment...
    denny
     
    Dennis O'Connor, Jan 29, 2004
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    Mark M Guest

    Nah...
    That's list price.
    I'd guess it will be around $3K on the street.
     
    Mark M, Jan 29, 2004
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    Mark M Guest

    Don't disregard the new ability to crop without quality drop...
    Newspapers often want only a portion of a frame.
    I just had a photo published in the San Diego Union Tribune, and while going
    through the submission process, I discovered that they (the photography
    department guys and photogs) were quite jealous of even the pixel advantage
    of my 10D over their D1 units. -And this was newsprint stuff!
    They said they can ALWAYS appreciate the option of cropping without
    suffering quality loss.
    With 8MP, they can partially miss a frame-job, yet still tighten it
    afterward adn get the money shot.

    Also--Nature photogs will love this. While a 1Ds has great resolution, it
    is too slow at 3fps for many action sequences. With 8.5fps, they will be
    very pleased.
    A agree there. This one looks like quite a stretch, although it does look
    like a nice alternative to the 35-350 L for FJs who shoot digital (with it's
    crop factor).
     
    Mark M, Jan 29, 2004
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    Mark M Guest

    It's crop factor is slightly less than 1.3x.
    That means a larger sensor--that has the same size pixel sensors as the 1Ds.
    That is attractive.
     
    Mark M, Jan 29, 2004
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    Nick James Guest

    yup cos electronic chips and circuit boards cost nothing.

    All the raw components are free.
    There was highly skilled hardware design and proving team.
    No mechanical engineering effort was required to get everything to fit
    just right.
    No team of software engineers and testers busting their ass for 12-18
    months.

    Nope you just crank a handle and the chips come out like a one armed bandit.

    Jees, come and live in the real world some time Dennis.

    Nick
     
    Nick James, Jan 29, 2004
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    Gavin Cato Guest

    In your dreams.
     
    Gavin Cato, Jan 29, 2004
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    Mark M Guest

    Perhaps, but if $4499 is the list price, a price around $3000-$3500 would be
    in keeping with nearly every other Canon product released. Dpreview.com
    didn't actually say whether the price they mention is "list" or "street."
    I do think they'll have to make it close to the D2h (or probable D2x?).
    That one's going for around $3199 (B&H).
     
    Mark M, Jan 29, 2004
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    Gavin Cato Guest

    Yes, and I'd be pretty sure the 1D-II will be priced higher as it's a higher
    spec. My guess would be in the high $3k mark..
     
    Gavin Cato, Jan 29, 2004
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