Battery Prices Are Outrageous At Retailers (BP-511A)

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by secheese, Mar 8, 2005.

  1. secheese

    secheese Guest

    When I shop around, online, I can find a new BP-511A battery anywhere
    from $15 CAN to $25 CAN. I go to FutureShop and they sell it for $80
    CAN. This is outrageous! How can they justify that kind of mark up?
    Anyway... just wanted to vent. I feel better now! :)
     
    secheese, Mar 8, 2005
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  2. secheese

    imbsysop Guest

    Same problem for the Canon G6 cam uses the same BP-511A battery ..
    proprietary Canon batt costing roughly 2x price of other brands ..
    Have a Google search .. reputable battery manufacturers (Varta, GP
    etc) all have equivalents for the BP-511A mostly at much much cheaper
    rates (check the mAh count though)

    HTH
     
    imbsysop, Mar 8, 2005
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  3. secheese

    Darrell Guest

    Is it a genuine OEM Canon battery or a BP-511A clone? There are several
    non-OEM that get poor reviews from end-users (some get good reviews too!)
     
    Darrell, Mar 8, 2005
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  4. secheese

    Tumbleweed Guest

    I may just have been lucky, but I bought an un-branded clone direct from
    Hong Kong on eBay.
    It seems to be a better battery than my Canon original, lasting much longer
    on an intensive shoot.
     
    Tumbleweed, Mar 8, 2005
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  5. I got a couple of clones for a Nikon 4500 and neither lasted a year.
    The original battery over two years old is still fine. The
    replacements for them I bought were genuine Nikon. We've see similar
    issues with cheap laptop replacement batteries at the University here.

    It's not fun to be out in the middle of nowhere in West Texas and find
    a clone isn't holding or taking a change and having to wait for the
    original battery to change to finish the shooting.
     
    John A. Stovall, Mar 8, 2005
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  6. Thomas-distributing.com ships to Canada. Quality 511 replacements
    (Lenmar, MAHA, CTA) are about $25 US
     
    Oliver Costich, Mar 8, 2005
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  7. secheese

    MarkH Guest

    Do you think that it is possible that some clone brands are excellent, some
    are good, some are OK and some are sub-standard?

    My Power 2000 batteries are now 16 months old and hold their charge well.
    They still outperform my Canon batteries and when it comes time to replace
    some of my batteries, I will avoid the overpriced Canon ones.
     
    MarkH, Mar 9, 2005
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  8. secheese

    secheese Guest

    The $80 ones sold at FutureShop are third party; Optex to be exact.
     
    secheese, Mar 9, 2005
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  9. secheese

    Hi There Guest

    They don't have to justify it. They are a merchant, you are a customer. If
    you think they are charging too much don't buy there. If enough customers do
    this they will either lower the price, sell some other product instead, or
    go out of business. Retailers don't have to justify anything other than the
    bottom line to their owners. After twenty years of retail I just had to vent
    :)

    Kerry
     
    Hi There, Mar 9, 2005
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  10. secheese

    secheese Guest

    But I say they do have to justify it. Your argument, albeit true in
    the long run, doesn't help the poor sap that walks in off the street
    and purchases these items at inflated prices. And these poor saps are
    often the same poor saps that are always taken advantage of in our
    society.

    You're correct, the market will ultimately dictate the selling price
    of anything, but when 5 stores sell the same item (and they are the
    same per specs... all BP-511A's rated at 1300mH) an item for $18,
    $22, $21, $23, $17, and FutureShop jumps in at $80, then something's
    askew! Economics 101 or not, someone should take a look.

    When I brought this price difference to the attention of the manager,
    instead of investigating the possibility of a pricing error, he says,
    "oh... ours are simply a different brand". I think, why don't you,
    Mr. Merchant, buy your batteries at one of these cheaper vendors, up
    the price $5 and make a killing. Oh no, he'd rather put an item on
    the shelf that won't sell; smart retailing.

    Thanks for letting me vent.
     
    secheese, Mar 9, 2005
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  11. secheese

    Larry Guest

    SNIPPAGE

    I used to buy "clone" Sony Lithium batteries until I noticed the batteries on
    the shelf at my local RS was marked "Gusranteed for use until #####" and the
    date was a full year earlier than the day I looked at it.

    It is now a moot point, as the newer Sony cameras wont use a clone battery.

    They simply turn on, show a screen saying "Sony info-Litium Battery
    Required" and shut off.
     
    Larry, Mar 9, 2005
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  12. secheese

    clutch Guest


    ???? I just bought a power2000 for my Sony V3 from B&H. Works fine.
    I think the V3 is fairly new.

    Hate to differ with you, maybe Power2000 has a Sony License.


    Wes
     
    clutch, Mar 9, 2005
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  13. secheese

    clutch Guest

    That is the marketing strategy of BestBuy and they are hardly
    original.
    Well, if they sell enough on the profit margin that 80 bucks would
    generate, they are not likely to lower their price. You can price
    high, price low or price in the middle. Whatever price generates
    enough revenue for one's area is the price that works.

    You are not his target customer. Think of it this way, some sucker
    paid way more than what you will for the same darn thing. You have a
    brain and you used it to your advantage.

    Wes
     
    clutch, Mar 9, 2005
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  14. secheese

    Larry Guest

    Perhaps the situation has changed since I last tried it.

    I have several spare batteries I purchased at Radio Shack for my Sony 717.
    They work fine in the 717 and are identified as Sony info-lithium on startup,
    but they would not work in a Sony cdmavica 5mp (I forget the model number)
    nor would they work in the Sony F-828. (all use the same battery number) They
    would work in my Sony digital camcorder (same vintage as the 828.

    Im not familiar with the V-3 except for what I've read, but it is thier
    newest V series camera. Glad to hear your 3rd party batteries work in it.

    Where do you purchase the "power2000"? Perhaps I should give one a try. My
    Sony batteries are getting long in the tooth, and I dont want to pay Sony
    prices.

    (All of the Sony Cameras Ive had this problem with use the same Sony model
    number battery NP-FM50)
     
    Larry, Mar 9, 2005
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  15. Buy it for $20, say and sell it for $25 and make $5 or sell it at $80
    and make $60. You's have to sell 12 times as many at the lower price
    to come out the same.
     
    Oliver Costich, Mar 9, 2005
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  16. secheese

    clutch Guest

    bhphoto
     
    clutch, Mar 10, 2005
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  17. secheese

    Larry Guest


    I'll have to give them a call, and see if they guarantee their batteries to
    work in the F 828.. I gave up on the CDMavica as a bad idea.. to long to
    write the image between photos.

    With my F717, if the battery physically fits, the camera works just fine, but
    the 828 has some kind of firmware that sniffs the battery flavor a little
    closer.
     
    Larry, Mar 10, 2005
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  18. secheese

    Larry Guest


    Too many crooked dealers on E-Bay (though I've had good results with some).

    Proprietary style Lithium batteries sit in a price range where I wont E-bay
    them...

    They cost just little enough that a lot of people (me included) wont go to
    great lengths to chase 'em down if they dont show up, and the sellers know
    this.

    They cost just enough that I dont want to gamble on a strangers' honesty.

    By the way:

    I said in a MUCH earlier post, I would let everybody know how I made out with
    "Background Outlet".

    I got my lights (slave/strobes), they were as advertised, and worth (locally)
    about twice what I paid for them, brand new, in a box.
     
    Larry, Mar 10, 2005
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