Beginner's Camera Question

Discussion in 'Photography' started by David L, Aug 17, 2003.

  1. David L

    David L Guest

    I have a small question about what is possible with my camera, any help
    would be greatly appreciated.

    I recently bought a point-and-shoot camera, at the urging of some of my
    friends and with a curiosity about photography. My grandpa is a professional
    photographer, my mom is a gifted amateur, and some of my friends are really
    good (amateur) photographers. So in the name of curiosity, I bought a Kodak
    Easyshare LS443 digital camera. It's a good, solid camera, 4 megapixel, a
    couple of nice bells and whistles, but it's a point-and-shoot, with no
    manual controls to speak of. As soon as I got the camera I started to really
    become interested in photography, and realized an SLR might have been a
    better choice. My question is this: Do you think one can really take good
    photographs and develop and mature as a photographer with a point-and-shoot,
    or is it necessary to have an SLR?
     
    David L, Aug 17, 2003
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  2. You can learn the basics of composition with any camera. I have seen
    some very good pictures taken with point and shoot cameras. Once you
    have developed your photographic vision to a certain point (and you will
    know when that is), then you will probably want to "step up" to a camera
    with more creative control.
     
    Bill Williams, Aug 17, 2003
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  3. Take good photos, yes, develop and mature - probably needs a more mature
    camera.

    Gary Eickmeier
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Aug 17, 2003
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  4. David L

    JK Guest

    Not quite, although they might use aperture or shutter priority, and at times
    use an offset from that. I often use aperture priority, and sometimes use
    an offset.
     
    JK, Aug 17, 2003
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  5. David L

    JK Guest

    Not quite, although they might use aperture or shutter priority, and at times
    use an offset from that. I often use aperture priority, and sometimes use
    an offset.
     
    JK, Aug 17, 2003
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  6. David L

    Ron Hunter Guest

    Yes, this is a good place to start. You can use the P&S camera to learn
    the basics of composition and style, and to see if you have any talent
    in this area. If not, then you aren't out too much money. If you do,
    then you can move to a camera that allows more 'creative opportunity'
    after you learn all you can with this camera. With all those
    photographers in the family, you shouldn't have too much trouble getting
    good advice.
     
    Ron Hunter, Aug 17, 2003
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  7. David L

    Marggi Guest

    And, as an added bonus, while you are learning the basics with your point
    and shoot, the price of the slr's are going to be dropping like a rock. I
    have my purchase penciled in for two years from now, and in the meantime I
    have a lot of fun with composition and leaning photoshop. I have found, for
    myself, most of the shots I want are opportunistic, and I leave my coolpix
    in auto mode, only occasionaly switching to manual when I have time and a
    subject that stays put.
    Marggi
     
    Marggi, Aug 17, 2003
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  8. You do have some manual controls with the LS443 take the time and learn how
    to use what you have. I have seen award winning photos taken with a point &
    shoot camera. You need to develop that instinct of what is a good picture
    and how to get it. What a better tool than having a digital camera where you
    can see the results only moments after you take the exposure. Search old
    photo books many of the rules and techniques still apply. Do you know what
    type of photographer you want to be? what types of subjects you want to
    shoot? these questions may help you decide what camera to use.

    Good luck

    Gary
     
    Gary J Bevans, Aug 17, 2003
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  9. I am going to offer you my ywo sense, as an amateaur photographer like
    yourself.

    You may have made a mistake choosing the camera you did, not because it
    isn't and SLR, but because it lacks manual controls. You would probably have
    been happier with a camera like the Canon G3 or something similar, which
    offers all the funtionality of an SLR minus the interchngalble lenses and
    abilty to use ISO ratings over 400 or so. That said, you sure as hell can
    have fun with any reasonably good quality digicam.

    As for buying a digital SLR, in my opinion, unless you are a porfessional
    photogrpaher, or simply have deep pockets, now is not the time to buy.
    Digital SLRS are still very expensive, and thouge the Canon 10D has
    pehonmenal image quality, even at ISO 1600, it is still an immature product,
    with crop factors et al. The Olympus E-1 was supposed to be the first
    solution to this, but so far it looks like it is a little overpriced for
    what it offers (and it offers a lot, just not as much as the price commands)
     
    Jonathan Timar, Aug 17, 2003
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  10. David L

    JPS Guest

    In message <>,
    These aren't the only types of digfital cameras available. There are
    many that aren't SLRs, but still have full manual control, as well as
    aperture and shutter priority modes, as well as options for long
    exposure, and the ability to add adapters and filters.
    --
     
    JPS, Aug 19, 2003
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  11. David L

    Slingblade Guest

    Now wait just a minute...how can you say "Not quite"? Are you
    personally acquainted with every single one of those "Others", and
    know all their photographic practices and techniques? I'm sure there
    are some serious amateurs or professionals who use totally automatic
    cameras much of the time. To say "Not Quite" is ludricous.

    But if you want to get down right technical, his comment said "Other
    choose to use a MORE automatic camera like the one you have"...which
    could mean that it's AP or SP or totally Programmed Exposure or some
    variant of all those.

    I consider myself a serious amateur, and I have used my gear all the
    way from completely manual, without using a meter, and making pretty
    darn good exposure guesses, all the way through all the various
    metered, partially and fully automatic exposure settings. Different
    situations call for different techniques. A great deal of it depends
    on WHO is shooting, WHAT is being shot, HOW it's being show, WHERE
    it's being shot, and with what equipment and circumstances that happen
    to be taking place.
     
    Slingblade, Aug 19, 2003
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  12. David L

    David L Guest

    Funny you should say that...I was just talking to my mom today, and she has
    an SLR that she is willing to let me borrow. Thanks a lot for the input,
    everybody.
     
    David L, Aug 19, 2003
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