Best Computer for Video Editing

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Eric, Oct 31, 2004.

  1. Eric

    Eric Guest

    I am in the market for a new computer. I'm interested in video
    editing and need to know what specs to look for. I have a friend that
    keeps telling me I need to get a Mac.

    What do you guys suggest? Also, what is the best video editing
    software for newbie.

    Thx
     
    Eric, Oct 31, 2004
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    rqo Guest

    You'll get a lot of different opinions on this one. Mine is to get a new
    Windows XP based machine, P4, whatever the latest "speed" is, as much RAM
    as you can afford (at least 1 gig), minimum of two (three if you can get it)
    hard drives, one being VERY large to hold your downloaded/edited video, a
    DVD burner and a decent (read latest, 256 mb or 512 mb dual head) video
    card. A must have is an IE1394 firewire input to get your video into the
    computer. As for a monitor/s, that's up to you, but plan on going with two
    for max video editing space at some point.

    As for editing software, I own/use about everything, but do the majority of
    editing in Vegas 5/Canopus Edius/Adobe Premiere, in that order. Stay away
    from anything that starts with "Pinn" and ends with "acle". OK, the
    Hollywood effects are so-so, but the rest of the software is buggy.

    JMHO, but this would be a fairly good place to start. Dell would be good
    place to look. Stand by for a barrage of other opinions on this well worn
    topic.

    rqo
     
    rqo, Oct 31, 2004
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    Harry Putnam Guest

    Haa... and let me be the second of many to come.

    This is less opinion than some maybe. Since the first responder
    mentioned Canopus... If you plan to use Canopus tools and especially
    their hardcore capture card like DVStorm2. Be aware that there are
    many problems with AMD stuff. Not just AMD in general but
    specifically socket 754 stuff (Athlon64). And even then it is really
    the chipset on mobo that is the most likely culprit. Mine is an asus
    K8v deluxe with VIA K8T800 chipset.

    That particular one WILL NOT WORK with DVStorm. I just learned that
    hard lesson after building up a serious machine on Athlon64 3400+.
    Now I'm building a second system on P4 like the first responder
    suggested. P4 3.2gh and all the ram you can stand. A good solid
    mobo is asus P4C800 delux. But again that board doesn't support
    Socket 754. (in the intel world that would be socket 754 i915 chipsets)
     
    Harry Putnam, Oct 31, 2004
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    TonyP Guest

    Unless you also have analog, IEEE would be fine. If you have analog,
    you'll need a convertor. Pinnacle has one (MovieBox that also includes
    firewire) and Canopus (ADC-100 and up). The Pinnacle will cost you about
    $140, Canopus a little more (but also does more).
    I agree with the ram, the more the better. I have had success with AMD
    systems, but P4's have the edge in speed, but also cost more. IF time is
    not of the essence (and we are not talking about a whole lot of time,
    seconds basically), AMD is the way to go. Also, agreed, you will need a
    drive dedicated for your AV stuff. The bigger the better (picked up a
    200 gig 7200 Maxtor for $99. Works just fine for miniDV).
    I have used Premiere with great success (5-6.5), but have now switched
    to Pinnacle's Liquid Edition. Once you learn the interface, so much more
    intuitive than Premiere, and everything is intergrated into the program
    (audio, dvd, etc.). It has worked well for me (and many others)
    including burning DVD's.
    Never had an experience with Dell's. Find out whether you are going
    strictly software for editing, or software/hardware for editing. Also,
    doing this as a hobby or plan to go pro in the future? Pinnacle Studio 9
    is a low cost do everything. And remember... the tools help, but you are
    the creative force in editing.
     
    TonyP, Oct 31, 2004
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  5. Agree with rqo's post word for word.
     
    Steve Simpson, Nov 1, 2004
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  6. John Thomas Smith, Nov 1, 2004
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  7. Eric

    Eric Guest

    Thanks for the opinions guys. Here's another software based question.
    What are some good resources on learning to use such programs as
    premiere. I've tried to mess around with the program in the past, and
    it seems really complicated (plus the computer I was trying it on
    didn't have near the speed needed to have any success).

    Would you suggest informational websites, classes, or just trial and
    error?
     
    Eric, Nov 1, 2004
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  8. Eric

    TonyP Guest

    You didn't say which version of Premiere... here is a link for 6.5...
    https://www.adita.com/premiere6.htm
     
    TonyP, Nov 2, 2004
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  9. Eric

    CheetoDust Guest

    Get a Mac. 8^)

    ....Sean.
     
    CheetoDust, Dec 7, 2004
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  10. Get a Mac.
     
    Vingo Optomalicious, Dec 7, 2004
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  11. Eric

    Rnaap Guest

    I agree. Especially if you want your system to lockup ten times a day.
     
    Rnaap, Dec 7, 2004
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  12. Eric

    dylanpank Guest

    Eric,

    there are a number of good video editing solutions for both Mac and PC.
    Really there's nothing in these days. I find Macs far more reliable
    that PCs (I have a mac at home and use PCs all day at work) but some
    people don't like being limited by the choices Mac corners you into
    (there's really only the Final Cuts and some Avid software, there's a
    wider selection for PC, though Vegas and Premiere Pro are the only
    reall competitors)

    Pretty much ANY computer you buy now will be capable of editing video.
    Any Pentium 3 or higher, or Mac G4 or higher, minimum 256Mb RAM (but
    RAM is so cheap there's no point in not bumping it up to 512MB - it
    will be better) and 30GB free hard drive space should be enough to
    start.

    The only thing you'll need is a firewire card if you want to do DV
    in/out, which come as standard on all Macs but not on all PCs.

    For a Newbie, you might be happy with the rather basic software that
    comes with most computer operating systems for free (MovieMaker with
    XP, iMovie with Mac OSX) and spend a few months with whichever until
    you feel you've outgrow it.
     
    dylanpank, Dec 7, 2004
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  13. Eric

    CheetoDust Guest

    I agree, but only if you're running a pre-OSX machine. I wouldn't touch
    a Mac before OSX (Well, 10.2 for stability's sake) came out. We've got
    an 8.6 Mac with Media 100 at work and it's a disaster.

    ....Sean.
     
    CheetoDust, Dec 8, 2004
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    Rnaap Guest

     
    Rnaap, Dec 9, 2004
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    RS Guest

    Oh, for crying out loud.

    Mac people are Mac people and never the twain shall meet.

    Yes, a Mac will do video editing just fine. Yes, a PC will do video editing
    just fine.

    What to get?

    Your concerns are.
    a second, large as you can get drive for video capture and editing. You'd
    rather not capture/render your video onto your system drive. You can if you
    have to, but you'd rather not.

    Lots of memory. A gig would be good, but you can live with 512

    Best processor you can afford. Rendering is processor dependent.

    People just starting out always ask about video cards. Which is best?
    Fastest? Editing does not put heavy demand on a video card. No 3d needed.

    So - Storage, Ram, Processor. Thats what you care about the most. Make sure
    it has Firewire.

    If you need TV In/Out and want or need conversion of analog, then examine
    this group for posts on capture cards.
     
    RS, Dec 9, 2004
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  16. Eric

    ChasProLTD Guest

    From: "RS"
    Why not?

    Thanks,
    Chase
     
    ChasProLTD, Dec 9, 2004
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    tetraplan Guest

    Do you repair permissions on a regular basis?

    --

    dwaes /at hetnet /dot nl

    Going too far
    WE don't go too far!
    None of us will go too far...
    Maybe sometimes we WENT too far
    But now WE WON'T!
    Because we're real nice guys!
     
    tetraplan, Dec 9, 2004
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  18. Eric

    Rnaap Guest

    Yes. We even REINSTALL FROM SCRATCH on a regular basis. Doesn't help.
     
    Rnaap, Dec 10, 2004
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  19. Eric

    tetraplan Guest

    Sounds like hardware failure to me.
    I had similar problems with a Mirrored Drive Door dual G4 (spits on
    ground- nothing against macs, but I hate that MDD) that would lock up
    every time. Fresh installs, upgrade to 10.3, nothing worked. Had it
    serviced and it appeared it needed a new mainboard.

    I suggest you take it to an appletech, official or unofficial, and
    have it checked.

    --

    dwaes /at hetnet /dot nl

    Going too far
    WE don't go too far!
    None of us will go too far...
    Maybe sometimes we WENT too far
    But now WE WON'T!
    Because we're real nice guys!
     
    tetraplan, Dec 10, 2004
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  20. Eric

    nappy-iou Guest

    Having to manually repair permissions on 'the greatest OS of all time' is
    purely rediculous. Simply assanine.


    What you are experiencing is happening to many FCP users. FCP truly sucks
    that way. I am convinced that Apple needs the tech support calls as an
    income stream. ($200 each)

    Which version of that crappy OS are you running? Some late releases are very
    problematic and require going back a step or two.

    Have you visited the apple forums?If only to see how many other people are
    suffering like you.


    Best of luck to you.
     
    nappy-iou, Dec 13, 2004
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