Best reference book for DSLR camera and Photoshop?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by CommanderDave, Apr 17, 2005.

  1. Hello All,

    I would like to get some ideas of what book or books would be your
    choice to buy. I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy a Nikon D70 so I would
    like a book that helps me to understand the controls and functions of
    a camera with the D70's capabilities.

    The second book I would like to purchase would be one that explains
    the intricacies of using Photoshop to edit pictures. If Photoshop,
    what program would you recommend?

    Thanks for the help...dave
     
    CommanderDave, Apr 17, 2005
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  2. I've just begun my journey into photography (with a Nikon D70). The
    books that have helped me most as far as understanding basic photography
    are the Ansel Adams books:

    The Camera (Book 1)
    by Ansel Adams, Robert Baker
    The Negative (Book 2)
    by Ansel Adams, Robert Baker

    I haven't looked at the third yet:

    The Print (Book 3)
    by Ansel Adams, Robert Baker;

    These are relatively old books that deal mostly with B&W photography,
    but they are invaluable to me for learning about aperture, shutter
    speed, exposure, etc. I turned to them after the ones below didn't
    provide enough explanation.

    These books all deal with digital photography, and they have all been
    helpfull to some extent. I recommend sitting down at you local bookshop,
    picking a particular topic and reading each one to see which one(s) are
    most lucid.

    The Basic Book of Photography
    by Tom & Michele Grimm
    John Hedgecoe's Complete Guide to Photography
    by John Hedgecoe
    The Joy of Digital Photography
    by Jeff Wignall
    PCPhoto Digital SLR Handbook
    by Rob Sheppard

    Hedgecoe's may be the best 1st book that I've found, if you can only get
    one. I'd accompany it with at least the first two Ansel Adams books.

    Can't help on this yet...
     
    Randy W. Sims, Apr 17, 2005
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  3. CommanderDave

    Stacey Guest

    I got a lot out of "color confidence" by Tim Grey. Explains how color
    management works, how a camera records color, how we see color ect in
    digital capture and printing. Found mine used at amazon for like $5!
     
    Stacey, Apr 17, 2005
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  4. CommanderDave

    g n p Guest


    Tears are slowly running down my cheeks.......................... :-((
    (The older ones will get the idea)
     
    g n p, Apr 17, 2005
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  5. CommanderDave

    Alan Browne Guest

    It comes with a manual, which you can DL from the web in pdf form and
    begin reading before you even get the camera.


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    Alan Browne, Apr 17, 2005
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  6. CommanderDave

    Patco Guest

    Try Thom Hogan's site for all things Nikon:
    http://www.bythom.com/

    He has a book on the D70 (CD only) and you can find a review and other
    useful info on his site.
     
    Patco, Apr 17, 2005
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  7. CommanderDave

    Ed Ruf Guest

    I'll second the recommendation of Thom Hogan's Complete Guide to the Nikon
    D70. A good resource. You can print it, even at a commercial place. The
    license allows for this.
     
    Ed Ruf, Apr 17, 2005
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  8. But that doesn't account for idiots at the print shop. I dropped my copy
    off at Kinko's the other day. Order one 5.5x8.5" double-sided, coil
    bound copy. They called me back later that night, saying they couldn't
    do double-sided. Ok. The called me again the next morning, saying it was
    now too big to bind. grrr. I went by there and they wanted to charge me
    for a 4-5 inch stack of 5.5x8.5" single-sided 4-5 inch thick stack of
    badly cut, unbound pages. Sorry, that's not what I ordered.

    Randy.
     
    Randy W. Sims, Apr 17, 2005
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  9. CommanderDave

    Sheldon Guest

    I'll third the recommendation for Hogan's book (CD). Very specific to the
    D70, but covers damn near anything you can think of, and things you hadn't
    thought of, with regard to using that camera. Very informative.
     
    Sheldon, Apr 17, 2005
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  10. CommanderDave

    Ed Ruf Guest

    That aid I don't agree with Thom's instructions for printing. I initially
    tried a few pages 2-up across an 8-1/2 x11 page double sided. But quickly
    determined it was better printed out at 8-1/2 x 11 per page double sided.
    Maybe five years ago I'd go for the 2-up, by the eyes aren't what they used
    to be. Used an HP 4500 Color LaserJet with duplexer.
     
    Ed Ruf, Apr 17, 2005
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  11. Hello Randy,

    Thank you for the input. During my mis-spent youth, I played with my
    dad's (He was a professional photographer) backup 4x5 camera. I, of
    course had images of being another Ansel Adams. That didn't happen,
    but I did inherit dads thousands of 4x5 negatives.

    I digress. I more wanted a book that can explain how, let's say, EV
    numbers work, and how I could correlate them with my film knowledge
    and past experiences. Another idea I read somewhere, is that with
    digital you expose for the highlights. Can that be true? That kind of
    stuff.

    I appreciate yours and others who have responded....dave
     
    CommanderDave, Apr 18, 2005
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  12. Hello Alan,

    I found the manual and downloaded. Thanks for the heads up. It is
    pretty amazing how fast, and the high quality of information you can
    get off of the web in a few minutes....dave
     
    CommanderDave, Apr 18, 2005
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  13. I was at my local Barnes & Noble today, getting my daily dose of
    Starbucks', and found what looks like a very good book on the subject:

    The Complete Guide to Digital Color Correction
    by Michael Walker, Neil Barstow

    I read quite a bit sitting there, and it looks very good. It covers
    everything from theory to practical application using Photoshop. The
    only reason I didn't pick it up is that I wanted to check another store
    to see if they have the one you mention, and see how it compares. It
    looks like one of these may provide the solution to the question I
    raised in a previous thread.

    Randy.
     
    Randy W. Sims, Apr 18, 2005
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  14. Hello All,

    The second book I would like to purchase would be one that explains
    the intricacies of using Photoshop to edit pictures. Is there a huge
    difference between CS and elements? Any recommendations?

    If not Photoshop, what other program would you recommend?

    Thanks for the help...dave
     
    CommanderDave, Apr 18, 2005
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  15. Hello Randy,

    I went to B&N last weekend and by the time I was through looking at
    the Adobe Photoshop books my mind was a little boogled. Ok...a lot
    boogled. I'll probably go back next weekend with what information I
    have gleened off of the Newsgroup and buy a book or two. Thanks for
    your input...dave
     
    CommanderDave, Apr 18, 2005
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  16. Randy W. Sims, Apr 18, 2005
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  17. CommanderDave

    Diane Wilson Guest

    There's a *huge* difference between CS and elements. Photoshop CS
    is aimed at pros, although Adobe doesn't mind if amateurs buy it
    also. It has a big feature set and an equally big learning curve;
    it assumes that you have enough of a grasp of the principles of
    image editing to be able to work through a series of steps to get
    what you want. For example, you tend not to see things like
    "red eye correction"; Photoshop assumes that you know how to do
    that manually (or that you're a good enough photographer that
    you don't get red eye to begin with). Where Photoshop does
    automate a fix-up tool, such as its "healing brush" which can
    remove wrinkles, the tools are really good and they're doing things
    that go way beyond what a real darkroom or airbrush can do.

    Photoshop also has things that you'll probably never need, such as
    support for commercial printing and publishing, and integration
    with the full range of publishing, illustration, and professional
    video editing tools.
    The first decision is about how serious you want to get. Photoshop
    is a high-end image editor that really doesn't have serious
    competition any more. Elements is aimed at a mid-range market,
    and has several competitors. Most of the programs in this range
    are reasonably good and do most of the same things. If you're
    looking for basic cropping, color and contrast adjustment, etc.,
    this is all you really need.

    "Photoshop Artistry" is an excellent book on using Photoshop
    for lots of interesting work on photos. If you browse through
    the book, you'll get an idea of Photoshop's power. If you want
    a simpler introduction to Photoshop's capabilities, pick up the
    most current edition of Adobe's Photoshop Classroom in a Book;
    it's an excellent tutorial that will get you through the
    Photoshop learning curve quickly. These two books will take
    you a long ways before you need anything else. A third book
    to look at, but which is not a substitute for the first two,
    would be the Photosho WOW book, which takes you through a lot
    of fancy special effects.

    If you want to play with Photoshop before deciding, pick up
    the Classroom in a Book, and download the try-out version
    of Photoshop from Adobe.

    Diane
     
    Diane Wilson, Apr 18, 2005
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  18. CommanderDave, Apr 18, 2005
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  19. Digital is a lot less forgiving of overexposure than negative film.
    When the highlights blow, they BLOW, and no amount of fiddling in
    post-processing brings them back. So yes, there's some truth to
    that.

    If you shoot RAW, you might have a little more headroom before you
    lose the highlights, but it's still the case that when they're gone,
    they're gone.

    Regards,
     
    Ben Rosengart, Apr 18, 2005
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  20. CommanderDave

    RichA Guest

    Photoshop is no different than Word, or Excel. A million features,
    90% of which you'll never use. If they took a poll of people and what
    features they use, like anything else, most would pick a handful as
    ones they use most often. What someone needs to do is create a
    program that does key features more easily, with fewer steps.
    An image fusing program exists like this. It's free and it's called,
    "registax." An application-specific program. If you do still photos
    of static subjects, it can improve your final result dramatically.
    -Rich
     
    RichA, Apr 18, 2005
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