better Kodak reorganization

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by Dale, May 6, 2013.

  1. Dale

    Dale Guest

    I read that Kodak is going to focus on printing, packaging and software

    I read they are selling their film business but keeping their motion
    picture business

    what the strategic planners their should do is

    1) map out ALL the imaging workflows
    2) indicate all participations, systems or products
    3) identify customers and partners
    4) build business cases


    and don't forget

    5) ask why there aren't participations
    6) keep up with changes in workflows
    7) central system offerings are best to vie
    8) create better workflows
     
    Dale, May 6, 2013
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  2. Dale

    Bowser Guest

    Keep one thing in mind: Kodak's past management wasn't very bright.
    These are they guys who once tasked their people with finding a way to
    kill the digital revolution to protect their film business.
     
    Bowser, May 6, 2013
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  3. Dale

    Alfred Molon Guest

    .... really they did? Almost too funny to be true. What plan did Kodak
    devise to kill digital photography?
     
    Alfred Molon, May 6, 2013
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  4. Dale

    Guest Guest

    they invented it and they knew it would replace film, they just didn't
    expect it would be so quick.
     
    Guest, May 6, 2013
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  5. Sounds like Xerox Corporation who tried to suppress an invention devised
    by the scientists at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center, basically a
    personal computer. Their reason for suppressing it: we make our money
    from copying machines and this device might bring about a paperless
    society. They feared losing their customer base of copying machine users.

    http://www.amazon.com/Fumbling-Future-Invented-Personal-Computer/dp/1583482660
     
    Jean-David Beyer, May 6, 2013
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  6. Dale

    Martin Brown Guest

    That is a slightly unkind caricature but unfortunately is also not too
    wide of the mark. I was an early adopter of Kodaks Pro PhotoCD scanning
    service which at the time was incredible. Drum scanning was a real PITA.

    Then they launched Kodak PictureCD which was ISTR a sub 2Mpixel poxily
    compressed JPEG with no redeeming features. Most users of PhotoCD bought
    a Nikon scanner after one experience of getting useless PictureCD
    confusion after asking for PhotoCD and *NEVER* went back.

    Kodak marketing was brilliant at shooting itself in the foot with both
    barrels. I bought my newly released DC-120 digicam as remaindered stock
    because they launched the numerical permutation DC-210 only weeks later.

    If you wanted to sow confusion it is hard to imagine a better strategy.

    The film guys really were in control and didn't want digital spoiling
    their party. They failed to spot that the winds of change were coming.
     
    Martin Brown, May 6, 2013
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  7. Dale

    Martin Brown Guest

    That is a slightly unkind caricature but unfortunately is also not too
    wide of the mark. I was an early adopter of Kodaks Pro PhotoCD scanning
    service which at the time was incredible. Drum scanning was a real PITA.

    Then they launched Kodak PictureCD which was ISTR a sub 2Mpixel poxily
    compressed JPEG with no redeeming features. Most users of PhotoCD bought
    a Nikon scanner after one experience of getting useless PictureCD
    confusion after asking for PhotoCD and *NEVER* went back.

    Kodak marketing was brilliant at shooting itself in the foot with both
    barrels. I bought my newly released DC-120 digicam as remaindered stock
    because they launched the numerical permutation DC-210 only weeks later.

    If you wanted to sow confusion it is hard to imagine a better strategy.

    The film guys really were in control and didn't want digital spoiling
    their party. They failed to spot that the winds of change were coming.
     
    Martin Brown, May 6, 2013
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  8. Dale

    Martin Brown Guest

    That is a slightly unkind caricature but unfortunately is also not too
    wide of the mark. I was an early adopter of Kodaks Pro PhotoCD scanning
    service which at the time was incredible. Drum scanning was a real PITA.

    Then they launched Kodak PictureCD which was ISTR a sub 2Mpixel poxily
    compressed JPEG with no redeeming features. Most users of PhotoCD bought
    a Nikon scanner after one experience of getting useless dealer PictureCD
    confusion after asking for PhotoCD and *NEVER* went back.

    Kodak marketing was brilliant at shooting itself in the foot with both
    barrels. I bought my newly released DC-120 digicam as remaindered stock
    because they launched the numerical permutation DC-210 only weeks later.

    If you wanted to sow confusion it is hard to imagine a better strategy.

    The film guys really were in control and didn't want digital spoiling
    their party. They failed to spot that the winds of change were coming.
     
    Martin Brown, May 7, 2013
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  9. Dale

    Steven_Lord Guest

    *snip*

    Ladies and gentlemen, this doesn't have anything to do with MATLAB, so
    please remove comp.soft-sys.matlab from the newsgroups list when you reply
    to this thread. Thanks!
     
    Steven_Lord, May 7, 2013
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  10. Dale

    Bowser Guest

    I did read the article, so I'll see if I can dig it up for you. Yes,
    Kodak tried to stave off digital to save their film business.
     
    Bowser, May 7, 2013
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  11. Dale

    Bowser Guest

    Bowser, May 7, 2013
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  12. Dale

    Alfred Molon Guest

    I also bought a Nikon scanner years ago which is now catching dust on a
    cupboard. Haven't used it for years, because using it is so complicated
    and the quality is poor compared to digital.
     
    Alfred Molon, May 7, 2013
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  13. Dale

    Guest Guest

    try different software, such as vuescan. nikon's software was pretty
    bad.
     
    Guest, May 7, 2013
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  14. Well, then., sell it to me or put it on eBay. The Nikon scanners (all
    except the lowest-end model) are sought after. Used with Vuescan or
    Silverscan, they do a great job.
     
    Scott Schuckert, May 7, 2013
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  15. Dale

    RichA Guest

    There are numerous examples of large companies being wholly and
    illogically resistant to change. Sony, GM, Bell, the list of
    casualties and soon-to-be casualties goes on.
     
    RichA, May 8, 2013
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  16. Dale

    Martin Brown Guest

     
    Martin Brown, May 8, 2013
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  17. Alfred Molon:
    Is it really so bad? Here's some of my scans, using
    a Nikon Coolscan at 2900 dpi:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59075928/sergey02.jpg
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59075928/sergey26.jpg
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59075928/sergey29.jpg
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59075928/sergey36.jpg

    And no, it is not complicated once you learn to use
    it.
     
    Anton Shepelev, May 8, 2013
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  18. Dale

    Martin Brown Guest

    I still have one of the old 35mm design (hence the 70% crop). It is less
    of a faff than firing up tetchy SCSI peripherals on an old machine.
     
    Martin Brown, May 8, 2013
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  19. Dale

    Guest Guest

    what does a full frame sensor have to do with using a scanner?

    if you're thinking of slide duplicators (lens, bellows, slide holder),
    those work on fx or dx, but it's not as good as a scanner.
    having both photocd and picturecd was stupid.
     
    Guest, May 8, 2013
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  20. Dale

    Alfred Molon Guest

    Here is an example scan from the Nikon scanner:
    http://www.molon.de/images/F21_35.jpg
     
    Alfred Molon, May 8, 2013
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