BIN/CUE problem driving me nuts

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by monkeytrousers, Nov 26, 2004.

  1. I guess I'm fairly new to this but have doen my homework and exhausted
    all the self-help steps before posting.
    The following is driving me nuts though so I'd be grateful if any of
    you experts out there can offer any advice please?

    1. I downloaded a couple of .BIN files purporting to be disks 1 & 2 of
    a movie in SVCD format.
    2. Since I had no .CUE files I made my own as described here
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/7976
    3. I then burned to disk using Toast6 on a Mac OS X and CDRWin AND
    Burnatonce on a PC WinXP. All three methods give the same results -
    i.e. disks that load in my DVD player (which CAN play SVCDs) but the
    counter sits at 00:00:00 and the player says "PRESS PLAY TO CONTINUE"
    4. I've checked the .BIN files using CDmage and all seems to be ok
    (folder structure seems intact, SVCD\AVSEQ01.MPG is present etc)
    5. Using VLAN or Quicktime on Mac or WMP on WinXP to atempt to play
    the AVSEQ01.MPG file (either by extracting it from the .BIN using
    CDmage or accessing it straight off the resultant CD) fails with "file
    is unknown format" type errors.
    6. Suspecting my handmade .CUEs were wrong I also used CDmage to scan
    the .BIN file in raw format and identify it (which causes it to
    produce a CUE of what it finds) - that CUE was the same as the one I'd
    handwritten.

    Any ideas?
     
    monkeytrousers, Nov 26, 2004
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  2. monkeytrousers

    Funprice Guest

    I seems the problem lies in the AVSEQ01.MPG file, maybe this is true;
    try playing it with a software dvd player like WinDVD or PowerDVD:
    they are best for playing mpeg-2 and will give result if the file is
    valid.

    I think you have done all that's necessary to make a good cd, however
    try making an .iso from the .bin and burn that, just for fun.
     
    Funprice, Nov 26, 2004
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  3. : 1. I downloaded a couple of .BIN files purporting to be disks 1 & 2 of
    : a movie in SVCD format.
    : 2. Since I had no .CUE files I made my own as described here
    : http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/7976
    : 3. I then burned to disk using Toast6 on a Mac OS X and CDRWin AND
    : Burnatonce on a PC WinXP. All three methods give the same results -
    : i.e. disks that load in my DVD player (which CAN play SVCDs) but the
    : counter sits at 00:00:00 and the player says "PRESS PLAY TO CONTINUE"

    No idea on the solution but a comment/question...

    Have to tried running VLC on the original .bin file? Or even using the cue
    you generated?

    If it doesn't play you can safely assume the original files were bad. I
    dunno what it is with SVCD but there are more things broken with it than
    anything else I've run across. Also keep in mind a lot of stuff marked SVCD
    is really KVCD or one of the other variations.

    One thing to try, at least on the Mac, there is a program out there called
    VCDGear, its OSX command-line only but is able to directly read in a .bin
    and pull out the .mpg in there very fast, maybe 3-4 minutes for a 700mb
    file. If it works, you can just take the .mpg and feed it into toast or
    whatever and generate a vcd, svcd or dvd (in theory). Personally I think
    toast has it's own problems with generating svcd and dvd disks so you might
    want to transfer it to the XP machine for burning.

    My money is on the original bin files, probably encoded with some mutation
    of the SVCD format and you are going to be limited with working on them.

    -bruce
     
    Bruce Esquibel, Nov 27, 2004
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  4. monkeytrousers

    CheetoDust Guest

    Pull out the MPEG with VCDGear, then re-image it to Bin/Cue with FFMpegX
    and use Toast's copy mode to burn the bin/cue images. Toast has a problem
    with trying to re-encode perfectly good SVCD MPEGs and telling you that they
    won't fit on a CDR. You bypass this by letting FFMpegX make the images.

    ....Sean.
     
    CheetoDust, Dec 7, 2004
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  5. Guys.
    Thanks for all this excellent advice - especially the stuff about
    VCDGear.
    I can now at least play the mpegs I've extracted using VLAN on the Mac
    but they are a bit hit & miss (sometimes freeze etc.).
    VCDGear's "fix" mode helps but doesn't seem to cure all problems.
    I'm well on the way though and will keep at it so thanks once again for
    all the help.
    Cheers,
    Jim
     
    monkeytrousers, Dec 9, 2004
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