Bogen / Manfrotto Tripod/Head for under $200?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by This old Bob, Dec 13, 2005.

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    This old Bob Guest

    Which one of these combos would you get from this list I made from all the
    Bogen / Manfrotto tripod/head combos for under $200 at BH Photo? Someone has
    offereed a Christmas gift but I gotta choose fast to make delivery date.

    Probably the most use will be with a Canon 1D and a EF f/2.8 L 70-200 IS
    and maybe the occasional EF 300MM f/2.8 L non-IS (a real heavy sucker).

    I was hoping to get away with a kit from the list below which claims to
    support 11lbs but there is one listed here which supports 13lbs. But I could
    substitute my light-weight 300D for the 1D when using the 300mm so I'm not
    sure I wanted that to be the deciding factor. I think 11lbs would do.

    BTW, I would not be trying to track moving subjects, just trying to get a
    steady platform for long exposures with heavy gear. I do not currently have
    any investments in quick-release accessories but if one of these systems was
    something I could build upon to further a portrait and landscapes business
    that would be ideal.

    Sorted by Price, Low-to-High

    Bogen / Manfrotto 3011N Tripod Legs (Chrome) with 3028 Super 3D Head -
    Supports 11.00 lb (4.99 kg)
    B&H# BO3011N3028 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 134.90

    Bogen / Manfrotto 3001BN Tripod (Black) with 486RC2 Compact Balllhead (Quick
    Release) - Supports 11 lb (5 kg)
    B&H# BO3001BN486R B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 151.90


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3011N Tripod Legs (Chrome) with 3029 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head -
    Supports 11.57 lb (5.25 kg)
    B&H# BO3011N3029 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 154.90

    Bogen / Manfrotto 3001BPRO Tripod Legs (Black) with 3028 Super 3-D Head -
    Supports 11 lb (5 kg)
    B&H# BO3001PB3028 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 154.90


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3001BD Deluxe Tripod Legs (Black) with 3029 3-Way
    Pan/Tilt - Supports 11 lb (5 kg)
    B&H# BO3001BD3029 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 164.90


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3011N Tripod Legs (Chrome) with 3030 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head
    (Quick Release) - Supports 11.20 lb (5.08 kg)
    B&H# BO3011N3030 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 165.90


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3011BN Tripod Legs (Black) with 486RC2 Compact Ball Head
    (RC2 Quick Release) - Supports 13.2 lb (6 kg)
    B&H# BO3011BN486R B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 166.90


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3021N Tripod Legs (Chrome) with 3028 Super 3D Head -
    Supports 11.00 lb (4.99 kg)
    B&H# BO3021N3028 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 169.90


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3001BPRO Tripod Legs (Black) with 3029 3-Way Pan/Tilt
    Head - Supports 11 lb (5 kg)
    B&H# BO3001PB3029 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 174.90


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3001BD Deluxe Tripod Legs (Black) with 486RC2 Compact
    Ballhead (RC2 Quick Release) - Supports 11 lb (5 kg)
    B&H# BO3001BD486R B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 176.90


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3021 Pro Tripod Legs (Chrome) with 3028 Super 3D Head -
    Supports 11.00 lb (4.99 kg)
    B&H# BO3021P3028 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 179.90

    Bogen / Manfrotto 3001BPRO Tripod Legs (Black) with 3030 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head
    (Quick Release) - Supports 11 lb (5 kg)
    B&H# BO3001PB3030 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 184.95


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3001BN Tripod (Black) with 488RC2 MiDi Balllhead (Quick
    Release) - Supports 11 lb (5 kg)
    B&H# BO3001BN488R B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 185.90


    Bogen / Manfrotto 3001BPRO Tripod Legs (Black) with 486RC2 Compact Ballhead
    (RC2 Quick Release) - Supports 11 lb (5 kg)
    B&H# BO3001PB486R B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 186.90

    Bogen / Manfrotto 3021N Tripod Legs (Chrome) with 3029 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head -
    Supports 11.57 lb (5.25 kg)
    B&H# BO3021N3029 B&H Kit
    Our Price: $ 189.90
     
    This old Bob, Dec 13, 2005
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    The combination you missed, the 3011BN with 488RC2. However, that'll
    barely be sufficient for 300mm (let alone 300/2.8) and I would suggest
    going for the RC4 version of the head instead as it's more stable and
    it should *just* get you by with the lenses you're talking about. The
    3021BN legs will be better/sturdier (though also heavier) but at that
    point you're breaking the $200 barrier.
    The Manfrotto heads use their own quick-release plates, and come with them
    (you don't have to buy them extra). As long as you'll be sticking with
    that brand you'll be fine, but they are proprietary to the brand.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Dec 13, 2005
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    This old Bob Guest

    Yikes. Yep, I'm pussing the limits of the equipment and the budget.
    Good to know!

    Thanks
     
    This old Bob, Dec 14, 2005
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    eawckyegcy Guest

    You have a portrait business without a tripod? You want to "further
    one" with a $200 tripod+head? Well, I guess if you don't have a tripod
    yet, anything is better than nothing. But frankly, every professional
    I have met owns and uses a Tripod of Substance and a corresponding
    head. From this we can conclude that either (a) these professionals
    are all brainless dupes of a foul conspiracy to sell them
    over-engineered products, or (b) these professionals buy it because it
    works. Being fortunate enough to actually own some of this stuff, I
    tend to favour hypothesis (b)...

    Advice: buy something else for Christmas and save for a few more weeks
    or months and get a CF legset and a decent head (Arca-Swiss, Kirk,
    whatever). Think more about user-interface than the crude "support"
    numbers you see in marketing materials.
     
    eawckyegcy, Dec 14, 2005
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    JimmyG Guest

    After going through a half dozen tripods & heads, I have to strongly agree.

    For a quickly holdover, get a used setup on Ebay, & save for an Arca or Kirk
    ballhead. My Manfrotto 3221 legs are good, and might even suit your studio
    work.
     
    JimmyG, Dec 14, 2005
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    zeitgeist Guest

    I used to be familiar with bogen inventory but then they decide to change to
    manfrotto numbering.

    for heavy duty lenses like a 300/2.8 and for ease of use in the field, a
    solid pod like a the one with pnuematic legs is great, its sturdy, set up
    and adjusts quickly. the braces in the middle not only make the pod more
    ridged but lets you hang your camera bag adding more dead weight. with two
    switches you press and you can drop the legs, I used to hold the head where
    I wanted it, push the buttons and the legs would shoot down, set. Perfect
    for uneven, rocky, hillside areas. Raise up higher than my eyeballs or you
    can loosen the braces and swing the legs out horizontally and get down to
    the ground, eye ball view with a toddler, or egret.

    There is also a decent 'medium' weight pod with twin upper legs and a single
    adjustable lower leg on each of the three, again this has the center braces.
    Video guys like this pod a lot, probably cause it mimicks the old woodies.

    while many of the products are bundled with legs and head, you can order
    them separate, so you can be gifted one and buy the other.

    A pod needs to be stiff/ridged and hold a bit of weight way at the top.
    then it has to absorb the vibrations of the camera. This is done with a
    triangular form, open skinny legs don't do much, they can in fact increase
    the vibrations of the mirror flip. What dampens the vibs is dead weight,
    and a solid shape, old timer's woodies used a triangle piece they placed on
    the ground and put the pod's toes into. bracing in the middle gives two
    good advantages, it increases the structural shape enough, and allows you
    add weight.

    This reply is echoed to the z-prophoto mailing list at yahoogroups.com
     
    zeitgeist, Dec 14, 2005
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