Bug in CS4?

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by Guest, Dec 12, 2008.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I am having two problems.

    1) After a while tool tips stop appearing. The only way I can
    get them back is to exit CS4 and restart.

    2) When painting the end of a stroke is visible while holding down
    the mouse, but disappears when releasing the mouse button. There is
    a white square apprx the size of the brush being used. The final part
    of the change reappears when painting another stroke elsewhere, or after
    iconification.

    Any clues on either problem?

    This is on Win XP with all updates.

    Thanks,
     
    Guest, Dec 12, 2008
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    Jurgen Guest


    I agree about the video card. I'm totally unhappy with needing a $500
    upgrade to my display card just to run CS4 but in hindsight, the
    increase in speed of processing is quite noticeable.

    I was lucky in having a technician willing to trial several high end
    cards to find the best. Others will be very angry about this upgrade and
    it's (nearly) hidden need for a serious equipment upgrade on many PCs.

    I order a Mac last week. Seemingly these don't suffer the same issues
    with Photoshop as a PC does. Certainly I've hit the memory ceiling on my
    Windows machine enough times to think seriously about a change in platform.

    Getting a refund is not an option for serious and professional users. We
    simply have to stay in the loop or pack up and go back to a sketch pad!
     
    Jurgen, Dec 12, 2008
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    ronviers Guest

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    visual arts has to offer.

    Like these:

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    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...05BNDL_9000_Maya_Unlimited_2008_Software.html

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    And those are the inexpensive things. I could really use one of these:

    http://silverado.cc/shop/product.php?productid=1036&cat=0&page=1

    Now I hold out on upgrades as long as possible.
     
    ronviers, Dec 12, 2008
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    KatWoman Guest

    have to wait until Sabbath is over to see B&H links
     
    KatWoman, Dec 12, 2008
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  5. Guest

    ronviers Guest


    Here you get a price break at 5:
    http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1460793-ssd-ultra320-scsi-256gb-sd6nb-256g-000000.html

    They should be fast enough to pull it off but at only 256GB, you would
    need at least 100.
    I know! It's so beautiful.
    The new ones, announced but not delivered yet, are supposed to be
    configurable up to 28K. Can you imagine – 28K! That's two and a half
    time IMAX. A single frame would be almost 600MB. If my math is correct
    that's:
    28K 28672x21784 624,590,848 / (1024x1024) = [email protected]=1.43TB/
    s
    And they're configurable to shoot stereo!
    All for what it costs to rent a Panavision Genesis for ten days.
    Can you imagine working in PS on a matte painting at 28K. I think I
    remember reading that some of the composites WETA used on 'Lord of The
    Rings' required more than a hundred layers. Of course, they were
    working at 4K but you can see where things are heading.

    Some of the new compositing packages work at 32bit (place?) float. Do
    you see PS moving to float?
     
    ronviers, Dec 13, 2008
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    ronviers Guest

    I think this is better

    28672x21784 624,590,848b/8=78,073,856B/(1024x1024)
    [email protected]=1.787GB/s
     
    ronviers, Dec 13, 2008
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  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Mike Russell writes:


    Mike> This seems like typical tooltip behavior for most software. I've gotten to
    Mike> where I ignore them.

    I later noted a few threads about this in the Adobe Forums. It is a
    known CS4 bug. I find it pretty annoying, as I do not have the all
    the icons committed to memory. Hopefully there will be a patch soon.

    Mike> CS4 is a monster for showing up video driver problems. That's probably
    Mike> what's happening here. Chase down the latest video and DirectX drivers.
    Mike> Read this article on CS4's GPU issues:
    http> kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb404898>

    Mike> And if all else fails back off on the Video acceleration slider until
    Mike> painting is useable again. Then wait for more driver and or PS CS4
    Mike> updates. Or ...

    I started with this, and it fixed it by just changing the settings. I dialed
    down acceleration all the way, and the problem was gone. Then I added it back
    in until it was higher than I started and the problem did not come back. I then
    remembered similar behavior in Premiere CS2 --- where the playback monitor would
    become unusably slow, and toggling acceleration down then back up would fix it.
    Odd.

    I updated the drivers anyway, and hopefully the problem will not come back. It
    was especially bad when using the touchup tools.

    Thanks,
     
    Guest, Dec 15, 2008
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    Rob Guest


    Well if you had put more thought into your initial video card, plus
    given the correct advice this would not have occurred.

    I have an old Gigabyte 6600 Nvidia series card which is now some 5 years
    old. It has been swapped into my current PC.

    Guess what, with the latest drivers, its fine with CS4.


    I don't think Mac is the answer either.

    Its your advice that your have not thought forward and made the PC less
    redundant over a 3 year life cycle.
     
    Rob, Dec 18, 2008
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  9. Guest

    Jurgen Guest

    Yes. Right. We all have crystal ball, don't we?
     
    Jurgen, Dec 18, 2008
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  10. Guest

    Rob Guest

    I managed to have my computer working with CS4 because of my research
    well prior to building it - not accepting what Dell HP etc try to flog
    off, you just have to look at some of the stupid suggestions that come
    up in the newsgroups when the question what updates should I have for a
    new PC.

    PC's at present are at a point where top end bits make very little
    performance difference.

    But if your had a look at the basics of a Video card they were going to
    DDR3 ram yet people were flogging off 1Gb DDR2 ram cards as recent as
    6 mths ago at favorable prices. Then turning around after getting CS4
    and screaming my video card will not run with CS4. large amounts of RAM
    on the cards are not the answer like some suggest, its whats on the card.
     
    Rob, Dec 18, 2008
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  11. Guest

    Jurgen Guest

    FWIW I bought a photo editing system which contained the single best
    video card for editing photographs, a 2D Matrox card and a backlit,
    color managed monitor. 12 months ago this system was 'state of the art'
    stuff. I expected to amortise it's cost over 3 years. Already it has
    been upgraded once and looks like getting a serious upgrade in the video
    and storage area too.

    I'm not in the business of wasting money on computers. Maybe I could be
    accused of doing that with cameras, but not a PC. No one knew last year
    Adobe would start taking advantage of 3D GL or pixel shader in
    Photoshop. Or do you have some special vision for seeing into the future?

    Very clearly Samsung who made my backlit, XL30 monitor didn't expect it
    either because the calibration system doesn't work on cards with pixel
    shader. I have no intention of junking this monitor just because Adobe
    decide to incorporate 3D in Photoshop without warning.
     
    Jurgen, Dec 18, 2008
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