building Adobe Premiere still titles in Photoshop

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by brian mccabe, Sep 18, 2003.

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    brian mccabe Guest

    hello -

    I am wondering if there is a way to build still title cards in Photoshop
    for Adobe Premiere, rather than using Premiere's rather pathetic title program
    (the one that saves files as *.ptl). Can this be done? If so, what file
    format should I save my images in Photoshop as? thanks everyone!

    brian mc
     
    brian mccabe, Sep 18, 2003
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    Tony Mueller Guest

    The answer is yes.
    Create your titles at 720x534 pixels, then save as a .psd. This is your
    editable version of the title. Now merge any layers that have layer effects
    applied. Then resize to 720x480 and save with another filename (I usually
    append -merge to the name). Import into Premiere and when you place the
    title, set transparency to Alpha Channel.

    Tony Mueller
     
    Tony Mueller, Sep 19, 2003
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    MCL Guest

    In news:[email protected], brian mccabe deftly typed:
    A better proposition would be to use Illustrator or Aftereffect, but PS
    would work also. I use Vegas, not Premiere, but this is pretty basic
    stuff for any NLE to use still in either .tga, what I use, or even .tiff
    or .jpeg. Just make sure the format is 755pxX480px (for DV) so it looks
    ok when viewed on a TV monitor.
    In fact, I think Premiere can work with Photoshop native and layered
    ..psd format, I know Aftereffect does, so you could import the matte at
    the same time.
     
    MCL, Sep 19, 2003
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    MCL Guest

    Sorry, should have been 720X534 for DV. Had a brain cramp.
     
    MCL, Sep 19, 2003
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  5. OK, I'll bite - why not 720 x 480? In fact, what difference does it make
    what you save it at, as long as it is equal to or greater than video
    resolution?
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Sep 19, 2003
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    MCL Guest

    In Gary Eickmeier
    deftly typed:
    Photoshop work with square pixel, a 1:1 apect ratio. NTSC DV as a pixel
    ratio of 0.9 (rectangular, for a regular 4:3 frame). You can use an
    image that's 720X480, but it will look somewhat distorted when rendered
    as full frame.
    Here's a short list of apect ratio:

    D1/DV NTSC: 0.9 par
    D1/DV NTSC Widescreen: 1.2 par
    D1/DV PAL:1.0666 par
    D1/DV PAL Widescreen: 1.422 par
     
    MCL, Sep 19, 2003
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    Dan Maas Guest

    I am wondering if there is a way to build still title cards in Photoshop
    Of course. Any still image format (e.g. TIF, BMP) will work. If you
    want to composite the title over other video, you'll need to create an
    appropriate alpha channel and set a transparency mode in Premiere.

    Regards,
    Dan
     
    Dan Maas, Sep 19, 2003
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    Matt Guest

    So if your editing at 720x486, do you just drop the Photoshop image in
    at 720x534 and let Premiere resize? Or do you design the title at
    720x534 and then drop it to 720x486 in Photoshop before you bring it
    into Premiere?
     
    Matt, Sep 19, 2003
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    MCL Guest

    In news:bkeupk$12dc4$-berlin.de, Matt deftly typed:
    As I've mentionned, I don't use Premiere but Vegas. But typically yes,
    that's what I would do. In Vegas it's just a switch, "keep aspect
    ratio", that I have to turn off. The image will get "squished", but will
    look ok on an NTSC monitor. I've made template in Illustrator and PS
    since it's the size I work with more often (well actually, my partner in
    crime works with Illustrator and Aftereffect, I work with Vegas and
    PS:).
    I don't know if the 6 pixels extra of D1 makes a difference or not
    (486/0.9=540, not 534). Best I guess is to make a test and see how it
    looks to you.
     
    MCL, Sep 19, 2003
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    Matt Guest

    I've been working in Premiere for years but I've always just made my
    graphics at 720x486 (or 720x480 depending on the setup). Although I
    really only use Photoshop for mattes and company logos that have to be
    scanned. Other wise I'll use a third party title software and
    after-effects for most everything...of course most of this this was
    before DV, and I don't really edit as much as I use to.
     
    Matt, Sep 19, 2003
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    Tony Mueller Guest

    This is correct... D1= 720x540, DV= 720x534
     
    Tony Mueller, Sep 21, 2003
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  12. The titlemaker in Premiere 6.5 is not that lame, but the rendering and
    superimpose leave something to be desired, especially on a rolling
    title. So the question is: How does Vegas or other 3rd party program
    improve matters so the letters in a rolling title don't inherit
    multi-colored appendages as they move up? One assumes they export a
    bunch of bmp files and each stays around for a certain number of
    frames. If they are anti-aliased at the source, with what sort of
    matte/background? Then when Premiere merges the title layer with the
    video layer, is it merely dropping the titles straight over the video
    with an alpha matte, or is it doing some other funky stuff like
    blending and pseudo de-interlacing? (Confused as ever about Premiere).
     
    Ollie W. Holmes, Sep 22, 2003
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