Bulk loading and modern cameras.

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Peter Chant, Sep 12, 2004.

  1. Peter Chant

    Peter Chant Guest

    Dear All,

    I have in the past bulk loaded film cassettes with few problems on my
    old ME Super. However both an MZ-5n and Ricoh GR1v seem to have problems
    when I do this, either stopping winding on, not rewinding, or stopping
    advancing and not rewinding.

    Does this mean I can't bulk load with modern cameras or is there a trick
    I am missing?


    Pete
     
    Peter Chant, Sep 12, 2004
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  2. I bulk load with three autofocus Nikon bodies (F50, F90, F100) without
    difficulty. Some possibilities:

    - the plastic film cartridges create higher resistance than metal ones.
    Perhaps your camera doesn't like the higher tension if you also use plastic.
    - are you overloading the cartridges? Some manual cameras will take
    extra-long rolls (as high as 45 or so exposures). Autofocus cameras are
    much fussier.
    - how are you cutting your leaders? I don't bother cutting them at all -
    autofocus Nikons don't require them. If your film is advancing part way and
    then failing, I doubt this is a problem.

    When you load the film, be sure to use a bulk film loader and to wind on as
    evenly as you can. The differing tension from loading by hand or by
    cranking unevenly could be part of your problem.

    I've fired about a thousand feet of bulk film over the past few years and
    have had no difficulty at all with any of my cameras.

    Jim
     
    Jim MacKenzie, Sep 13, 2004
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  3. Sorry, I'm not familliar with either of those cameras, but are they totally
    motor driven? I have a Nikon FE and always found it required more force to
    wind-on/rewind bulk loaded reusable cassettes. Something about the snap-on
    caps requiring more room so the film slot is narrower.

    Maybe try single use cassette?
     
    Dominic Richens, Sep 13, 2004
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  4. Peter Chant

    Nick Zentena Guest


    What kind of tape are you using? Other then that the only other issue I
    can think of is the cannisters. Bulk loaded really isn't any different then
    factory loaded.

    Nick
     
    Nick Zentena, Sep 13, 2004
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  5. Peter Chant

    Peter Chant Guest

    Yes, but I have had some problems with metal.

    No, 36 ish max.
    To roughly the standard shape but with scissors.
    I have a feeling the tension is higher.
    Food for thought.
     
    Peter Chant, Sep 14, 2004
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  6. Peter Chant

    Peter Chant Guest

    Yes, totally motor driven.
    These play up as well.
     
    Peter Chant, Sep 14, 2004
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  7. Peter Chant

    Peter Chant Guest

    Masking tape, taped on very firmly.
     
    Peter Chant, Sep 14, 2004
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  8. Peter Chant

    Frank Pittel Guest

    : Dear All,

    : I have in the past bulk loaded film cassettes with few problems on my
    : old ME Super. However both an MZ-5n and Ricoh GR1v seem to have problems
    : when I do this, either stopping winding on, not rewinding, or stopping
    : advancing and not rewinding.

    : Does this mean I can't bulk load with modern cameras or is there a trick
    : I am missing?

    I've used bulk loaded cassettes with my Canon A2E and EOS 3 with no problem.

    Actually I take that back. I had a problem once when I tried to load to much
    film in a cassette once and another time I left a plastic cassette loaded in my
    camera and left the camera in my car for a couple of hot days. The head softened
    the plastic and when I got to the end of the roll the camera had a hard time
    rewinding the film all the way. In both cases I put the blame for the problem on
    myself.

    --




    Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
     
    Frank Pittel, Sep 15, 2004
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  9. I bulk load with three autofocus Nikon bodies (F50, F90, F100) without
    I believe that 24 exposure film is thicker than 36 exposure film. Is
    it possible that you are using 24 exposure bulk stock?
     
    Bob Kirkpatrick, Sep 15, 2004
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  10. Nah, it would be too expensive to manufacture different bases for
    different lengths. The only difference between 36 and 36 (or 12)
    is length.
     
    Stephen H. Westin, Sep 15, 2004
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  11. Peter Chant

    Peter Chant Guest

    New one on me. I stocked up with Ilford Delta 100, no mention of
    thickness.
     
    Peter Chant, Sep 15, 2004
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  12. Peter Chant

    Nick Zentena Guest


    Only thing I can figure is the cans. When you use manual cameras does the
    film wind easily?

    Nick
     
    Nick Zentena, Sep 15, 2004
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  13. Peter Chant

    Peter Chant Guest

    Not as easy s factory loaded.
     
    Peter Chant, Sep 15, 2004
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