Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Carrie, Jul 9, 2011.

  1. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    Some I took today. Since we're posting things to keep the group active.
    I've been doing PS CS3 video tutorials and feel I'm learning a lot- fast.
    Just have to remember it, but I figure I'll be doing things over and over
    (with various pictures) and trying things out. I'm on blend modes now (I
    love that stuff and filters/effects)

    The butterfly pictures I cropped and lightened with levels, and smart
    sharpened, more than I usually would do. I've been noticing in the tutorials
    that cover this (at least sharpening) they push it up a lot more than I had
    (gently nudged it, not wanting it to look "unreal") But, with butterflies,
    most of the time they just look like butterflies. Like last summer and the
    summer before. They don't do much different. I try and get them flyng but
    they usually don't look as pretty that way (maybe a video would be better).
    I got 2 of them together today. These are also batch processed into my
    "reszed" folder at 72 res and 12" wide. To use to put online, email, show
    people online, etc. I also noticed it seems to work better to use manual
    focus and some I tried manual settings (with shutter 1000th) Using my zoom
    lens 75-300 mm. I don't have stuff that's too fancy or expensive, I do what
    I can with what I have. Then do something with it after in PS. the
    backgrounds that are blurry came out that way natrually I didn't blur them





    Carrie, Jul 9, 2011
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  2. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    Yes, that's called depth of field... *sigh*

    You should marry Ulysses and raise a pack of moron children. 7-11 is
    always going to need night clerks.
    Voivod, Jul 9, 2011
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  3. Carrie

    Ulysses Guest

    back in the old days of 35mm slr cameras
    you would set the shutter opening (f-stop) to shorten the depth of field
    then set the shutter speed accordingly. tripods were needed for sharpness
    and lots of patience
    today with digital cameras you can do the same, BUT we are lazy
    and use the "auto" settings. plus with most digitals, one cannot see thru
    the lens
    photoshop can do it, but really it's fake. still love potoshop, tho
    Ulysses, Jul 9, 2011
  4. Carrie

    Ulysses Guest

    get married. maybe
    have children at my age----HA
    Ulysses, Jul 9, 2011
  5. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I used to have 35mm SLR cameras. Except for brightening and sharpening
    (and cropping) the butterfly pictures are as I took them. My camera has an
    auto setting for long dept of field, if I want to use that. I had just been
    using auto everything on it, but lately have been putting it on manual more.
    My camera has a viewfinder (along with the screen on the back) and I tend to
    use that more. Especially outside when it's bright.
    I got into using photoshop when I first had a digital camera and it was
    very cheap, but all I could get at the time.
    I see people who post picures online and either they say what camera
    they have, or if I ask, and I look it up and it costs like $3000. And they
    have a tripod and all kinds of fancy lenses. (I have a tripod but it's kind
    of a bother to use it) In a way I think having a not so expensive camera
    forces me to be more creative and learn more about using mine and photoshop
    after. I have a Canon Rebel XSi (up from the XS body I had before the
    shutter broke on). Which I think is pretty good. I do look at some of the
    Nikon D ones. But, most of them cost more than I have to live on per month.
    Carrie, Jul 9, 2011
  6. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    Amazing. You're smart enough to NOT want to pollute the gene pool.

    You're a step above cockroach, congratulations.
    Voivod, Jul 9, 2011
  7. Carrie

    tony cooper Guest

    Don't be intimidated by the people who have expensive camera kits. If
    you own a decent dslr body (and the Rebel XSi is), the only time they
    can produce better images based on equipment is when they are using
    better lenses. Without a long lens (300mm to 500mm) you won't be able
    to get certain wildlife shots. Without a dedicated macro lens, you
    won't be able to get certain macro shots. And so on.

    I don't consider a tripod to be fancy equipment. It's an essential,
    and they aren't expensive. Camera shake - movement of the camera in
    your hands - ruins a lot of images.

    Improving your composition and understanding aperture settings and
    their effect is where you should be now. One thing that sets good
    photographers apart is the ability to "see" the picture...to see a
    scene or an object and know that it could make a good photo and then
    to compose the photo in their mind before they push the button.
    I use Nikon, but I really don't think that camera brand is all that
    big a deal.
    tony cooper, Jul 9, 2011
  8. Not quite. An SLR camera has a focal plane shutter. The f-stop is set by
    the aperture (diafragm) in the lens.
    Johan W. Elzenga, Jul 9, 2011
  9. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    Thanks, Tony. I started out thinking of Nikon, then decided the Canon would
    be good, but a little bit lower price. There are some brands I think of as
    "better". I believe (maybe not true) that it's not just the megapixels, but
    the lens(s) that make for good pictures. Some of my kids get Kodak EasyShare
    cameras (around the $200 range) and doesn't seem like they can be enlarged
    very much. I think Kodak is a 'known" brand, but I have come to believe it's
    not that great.
    When my first Rebel (XS) body broke, I looked into Nikons again, then
    thought where I already have 2 Canon lenses... I'd stick with that and move
    up one.
    I'm a "grandmother" (not that they don't take pictures LOL) and live on
    Social Security, so have to plan and look for deals to get something good. I
    do have a tripod (not expensive) but take a lot of pictures as they happen,
    so to speak. Not like "wait a minute while I set up the tripod". I take my
    dogs out back, that's where I see the butterflies. One day I saw two deer,
    one a fawn walking up the road (I'd never seen before) and than later a doe
    in the pasture across from me, maybe looking for the fawn. It was like grab
    the camera and run out. With the doe I walked over to the fence and took
    pictures. It was almost like she was posing for me. It was 8pm and lightly
    raining. Then she flipped her white tail and bounded off.


    I took that with the 75-300 mm zoom lens.
    Carrie, Jul 9, 2011
  10. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    You should never enlarge any pictures. You can't add material that's not
    there. BTW, I've owned several Kodak digital cameras and they take
    amazing pictures. That you 'think' at all is something I doubt. You
    prattle on like a vapid, mindless 12 year old.
    Voivod, Jul 9, 2011
  11. Carrie

    tony cooper Guest

    My better butterfly photos have all been taken using a tripod.
    Chasing around a butterfly with the camera hand-held is difficult.
    It's better to watch and see where the butterflies land, focus on that
    spot, and wait for a butterfly. They usually come back.

    The other trick to photographing butterflies is to have the camera set
    on continuous and take several photos hoping one will have both wings
    open and spread...fast speed and wide-open aperture.

    Pay no attention to Voivod. He's been posting in this group for
    several years and has never posted anything remotely useful or
    interesting. I think he's one of those people who no one pays
    attention to in real life and uses the internet to bully because he's
    safe in being anonymous.
    tony cooper, Jul 9, 2011
  12. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    Like you just didn't?
    You've NOTICED ME! My life is complete!
    Yeah, that's it. Fucking failures at Psych101 trying to diagnose people.
    Voivod, Jul 9, 2011
  13. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I do take the butterfly pictures with rapid shooting. I have about 30
    pics of each one then go over them after. I combine taking me 2 dogs out to
    play with picture taking, so end up like I'm "stalking" the butterflies in
    the brush and flowers.
    You are saying my butterfly pictures could be better? I mainly take them
    for my own enjoyment, and then what I can do with them after in photoshop. I
    like using the "art" effects, too. (Virtual Painter is one, but I only find
    a few of the effects it has occasionally useful)
    I mainly posted them here because others were posting things like
    keyboard shortcuts just to keep the group moving.
    I know, I have found people like that on other groups, mainly the
    "spiritual" ones. I think they feel people into this are easier to bully.
    Though it's also good practice in not letting what someone else posts effect
    me. Not a bad lesson to learn for off the internet, too.
    There aren't too many unmoderated groups around now, where people can
    vent or dump their frustrations, or make themselves feel better by putting
    others down. Or whatever they get from it.
    Sometimes, they write such similiar stuff, I wonder if it's all the
    same person using different names.
    Carrie, Jul 10, 2011
  14. Carrie

    tony cooper Guest

    I didn't comment on them at all. You didn't ask for a critique, so I
    didn't offer one. If you do ask, I'd suggest you crop a little
    tighter and not crop so your subject is always in the middle of the
    Unless we're professional photographers, that's what we all do.
    tony cooper, Jul 10, 2011
  15. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    Okay, you should have seen how much I cropped them already LOL
    One would hope that's what a professional photographer would to, too. Why
    do something creative like photography if you don't enjoy it.
    Carrie, Jul 10, 2011
  16. Carrie

    tony cooper Guest

    Feature the subject. When you are photographing something like a
    butterfly, the subject should fill the frame as much as possible. The
    subject would include the butterfly and whatever it is resting on;
    usually a flower. Any extra space should be unequally on one side to
    give the impression that the butterfly can fly off to that space;
    ahead or above, but not behind or below.

    The exception to a tight crop is if you are processing to sell the
    image as a stock photo or for a card. There, you leave in
    out-of-focus background area so text can be added to the image.

    I spent one day with a professional wedding photographer who is a
    member of my camera club. His assistant was ill, and he needed
    someone to carry his gear and hold things. I volunteered. I didn't
    take any photos, though.

    That may be someone's idea of enjoyment, but it sure isn't mine.
    tony cooper, Jul 10, 2011
  17. Carrie

    Ulysses Guest

    back in the old days of 35mm slr cameras
    yes you are so right with the correct discription
    years go by and one forgets
    thank you
    Ulysses, Jul 10, 2011
  18. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    As therapies go it's cheap AND it works! Then again you just called me
    an asshole AND changed your nick/email address to something insulting so
    you've actually dropped BELOW my level as I NEVER nym shift to get
    around filters or insult people. How that feel, fucktard, you're lower
    than me!
    He's just an asshole
    insignificant piece of crap

    The above aren't really crude language, hypocrite?
    Ah, the tough guy approach. New, no, novel, no, interesting, no... fail
    all around.
    And yet you're still obsessing over me. WIN!
    Come on, admit it. You changed your name JUST FOR ME! You want my
    attention. You CRAVE my attention. My paying attention to you gives
    meaning to your miserable life.
    And you, hypocrite? What's your excuse for lashing out while you're
    supposedly HIDING behind your filters?
    You're breaking irony records here, Junior.
    *boom* there goes another.
    You make funny!
    Voivod, Jul 10, 2011
  19. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    You cannot forget what you never knew.
    Voivod, Jul 10, 2011
  20. If you ain't, then you're a colostomite.
    Sir F. A. Rien, Jul 10, 2011
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