butterflies

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Carrie, Jul 9, 2011.

  1. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    Look at you trying to be all clever and failing miserably.

    Better luck next... naa, you'll **** up then too.
     
    Voivod, Jul 10, 2011
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  2. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I get the newsgroups in Outlook Express (through my cable company) and I
    can block people with this.
    It's just as easy to ignore them.
     
    Carrie, Jul 10, 2011
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  3. Carrie

    mike fee Guest

    Now that _is_ funny. Voivod appears to believe that photographs taken on
    a 35mm camera should remain at 35x24 mm, and presumably has some
    misguided viewpoint regarding the dimensions of digital images.

    Tell me voivod, how big is the picture taken by a digital camera, so I
    can avoid the crime of enlarging it?

    Mike
     
    mike fee, Jul 11, 2011
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  4. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    If only stupidity were a crime we could have you jailed... ah well.

    You and Ulysses should get together with Grandma Stupid... I mean
    Carrie. Ya'll deserve each other.
     
    Voivod, Jul 11, 2011
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  5. Carrie

    mike fee Guest

    Just as I thought - all piss and wind.
     
    mike fee, Jul 11, 2011
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  6. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    You can enlarge pictures that are high resolution. Though I mainly
    reduce mine, because most of the time I put them online or share them. And
    to a point, you can add something that's not there. Enhance what there is.
     
    Carrie, Jul 11, 2011
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  7. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I'll I did was post some pictures from that day, because someone else
    posted keyboard shortcuts, to keep the group going.
    Maybe more of us should post pictures? If there's nothing much to ask or
    say. I don't know about everyone else who checks out this group, but I tend
    to think in "pictures".
     
    Carrie, Jul 11, 2011
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  8. Carrie

    mike fee Guest

    Yes, I quite agree - you can sometimes 'rescue' a low-resolution image
    by careful up-scaling, as long as you accept that something artificial
    may have been added to the image. But the best way to get good pictures
    of small things like butterflies is to fill as much of the frame as is
    possible to start with - and that is most easily done with a nice macro-
    lens (along with a fair bit of patience) and fairly bright sunlight so
    you can ensure a reasonable depth of field. Have you considered
    upgrading to such a lens (assuming you don't already have one)? An
    enthusiast-grade third-party lens like a Sigma shouldn't break the bank,
    but if budget is a constraint you can do OK with a set of close-up
    lenses that screw on top the end of a standard lens (a bit like a
    filter).

    Mike
     
    mike fee, Jul 11, 2011
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  9. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I have a (regular)18-55mm and a zoom 75mm -300mm I usually use the zoom
    one for butterflies, because they are in the middle of thick brush and
    wildflowers (usually) I don't mind low depth of field, I kind of like the
    soft, blurred background. I take pictures on the highest quality (next to
    raw) and they open in PS as 4272x2848 pxls. I can pretty much crop or print
    them full page, whatever I want.
    As to filling the frame with a butterfly or using a closeup lens, it's
    hard enough getting shots of them with the zoom lens. Though sometimes they
    do sit and pose for me.
    One summer I went through a stage of taking pictures of really small
    things (with my Canon Powershot G-8 which had an extra closeup lens. I could
    pretty much put the camera on the bug. If it would sit there and let me
    (LOL)
    These are saved at 72 res to put online.
    http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa455/starchild_dreams3/IMG_6745_8.jpg

    I could have cropped the ant closer..
    http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa455/starchild_dreams3/IMG_4042_8.jpg

    http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa455/starchild_dreams3/IMG_5236_8.jpg
     
    Carrie, Jul 11, 2011
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  10. Carrie

    tony cooper Guest

    "Filling the frame" can refer to zooming in on the object until it
    fills the frame in the viewfinder, but it can also mean cropping the
    photo until the object fills the frame. With an image of 4272 x 2848
    you can crop down to a frame-filling image if there is no motion blur
    and the focus is right-on.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 11, 2011
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  11. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    Yeah, like you've ever had an original thought.
     
    Voivod, Jul 11, 2011
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  12. Actually, nothing has changed. A digital SLR still works the same way.
     
    Johan W. Elzenga, Jul 11, 2011
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  13. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    Ah, the Idiot's Guide to Photoshop, written by a REAL Idiot!

    I see you know as much about cameras as you do Photoshop.
     
    Voivod, Jul 11, 2011
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  14. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    If I do that with the butterfly pictures and repost them, will that make
    you feel better?
     
    Carrie, Jul 11, 2011
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  15. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I agree. I usually do use the auto settings, but have been using the
    manual focus more lately. And sometimes using the manual settings (like if I
    take pictures of the moon) I also got so I could take pictures of falling
    snow this way. The auto focus was missing it (the snow falling) and using
    manual I could get he actual snow in the picture more. Rain is the same way,
    though if the sun is in back of it, and it's raining hard, it shows up more.
     
    Carrie, Jul 11, 2011
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  16. Carrie

    tony cooper Guest

    No, but it should make you feel better.

    You can drop the attitude, Grandma. I'm a grandfather, and my
    grandkids are cuter and smarter than your grandkids.

    If you don't want suggestions, just say so. If you want to share your
    images and have everyone rave about them whether they are good or bad,
    post them on Flickr. No one on Flickr ever gives any useful
    commentary.

    When someone makes a suggestion for change in your post-processing
    technique, it shows you how others see your photograph. It should
    give you a perspective that you aren't aware of. Many of us learn by
    offering our photographs for critiques.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 11, 2011
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  17. Carrie

    Carrie Guest

    I just posted them as an alternative to posting about keyboard shortcuts
    to keep the board active. I thought I made that clear. You are the one who
    continually had a problem with them. If my pictures are so no good they
    bother people, I won't post them anymore.
     
    Carrie, Jul 11, 2011
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  18. Carrie

    Voivod Guest

    It's not a board, dipshit, it's a newsgroup and it doesn't get lonely if
    you skip prattling on mindlessly for a day or three.
    Oh no! She's going to take her ball and go home!

    Dear Grandma Dipshit,
    If you don't want people to comment on your shitty pictures taken with
    the camera you don't know how to use don't post links to them here on
    usenet.
     
    Voivod, Jul 11, 2011
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  19. Carrie

    mike fee Guest

    Yes - much easier with ants, caterpillars, and assorted bugs than with
    butterflies. Th elatter just seem to know when you ar eabout to take a
    shot and will wait patiently till you get them _almost_ in
    frame/focus/position before deciding to flutter to the next bush.

    Mike
     
    mike fee, Jul 11, 2011
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  20. Carrie

    tony cooper Guest

    I didn't say, or even imply, that her photos were shitty. I said only
    that the composition could be improved by better cropping. However,
    it seems like she's the type that takes any suggestion as criticism.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 11, 2011
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