Buy dv tapes in UK

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Thur, Feb 19, 2004.

  1. Can you explain please? I can't afford to be other than 'right first
    time'. I'm recording up to four events simultaneously and continuously
    for up to 8 hours a day. I use three hour tapes in case of time over
    runs on those events. How do you suggest I can improve my method? If
    you have a workable idea I will gladly pay for it.
     
    Malcolm Knight, Feb 23, 2004
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  2. I would say completely the opposite. I see from my Guild's current newsletter,
    that Sony recommend 2-5 recording for their tapes.

    My recollection is of having, and hearing about, disasters from over using old
    tapes. I can't remember a problem with a new tape unless of course you mean
    trying to get the shrink wrap off in a hurry!!!

    regards

    Stuart

    www.mckears.com
     
    Stuart McKears, Feb 23, 2004
    #22
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  3. Thur

    Tony Morgan Guest

    I've mentioned here before that I use a "dot system". Each time I use a
    tape I put a dot on the case's spine label. When I need (to re-use) a
    tape I take the one with the least dots. When I need a tape for
    archiving I take a tape with the most number of dots. It seems to work
    really well.

    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 23, 2004
    #23
  4. Depends as always on what we are talking about, you have not even
    mentioned the format.

    I have spoken to Sony BPE people over the years and on the basis of
    what I have been told I'm more than happy to use old tapes for my
    purpose. I've heard them say how some overseas local TV stations have
    repeated things 50 or more times direct from DVCAM tape and used that
    fact as a sales point for the DVCAM format. If, on the other hand, you
    are trying to sell more tape....

    I've never had any problem with my DVCAM machines some of which must
    be more than six years old by now.
    There you have a point. I have to unwrap large numbers of VHS tapes. I
    have a technique with a Stanley knife now, but I used to think the
    time to unwrap them was costing more than the manufacturing cost. (180
    minute tapes retailing at 70 pence each must cost only pennies to
    make).
     
    Malcolm Knight, Feb 23, 2004
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  5. Thur

    SjT Guest

    I'm guessing you're from american descendant? All americans that i
    have spoken to have problems with understanding sarcasm.

    What are you filming? Maybe i could help you out, you ever considered
    direct to disk recording? or maybe spooling to some other large tape
    format?
     
    SjT, Feb 23, 2004
    #25
  6. Thur

    SjT Guest

    Are you suggesting that people are able to modify the DV format then?!
    DV Is DV, whether it's miniDV or plain old DV, there isn't DV and 'any
    old DV' is there?!

    As i've said before good lighting, quality of lense and camera
    techniques are what make a good image above what format you choose to
    use imo.
     
    SjT, Feb 23, 2004
    #26
  7. I started out with direct to HD recording. However when the project
    kept growing it became uneconomic. 80 X 3 hours DV tape is more than
    3000 gigabytes of disc space and tapes have the merit of being easily
    transportable. Recording in one place, editing at another.

    I'd be glad of some help (or even get out of the business altogether)
    as I've said a couple of times previously but I'm particular about who
    I would trust to take over.

    Certainly anyone who is going to buy new tapes after a couple of uses
    would not be in the running.
     
    Malcolm Knight, Feb 23, 2004
    #27
  8. I don't think I should be encouraging you to show any more ignorance
    or lack of comprehension.
     
    Malcolm Knight, Feb 23, 2004
    #28
  9. Thur

    Jerry. Guest

    <FX>SCR......................EAM>

    The whole of that other thread has obviously gone straight over you head.
    :~(

    Please go and read up on DVCPro, DVCam, Digibeta and Digital S - Google is
    your friend before you really do make yourself look thicker than a 12 lane
    interstate freeway is wide....
     
    Jerry., Feb 23, 2004
    #29
  10. Thur

    SjT Guest

    No, you're really showing yourself up with the name-calling and child
    like competitiveness already, you can thankgod you've got that card up
    your sleeve otherwise i would have to prove you wrong despite being a
    humble hobbyist.
     
    SjT, Feb 23, 2004
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  11. Thur

    SjT Guest

    Would it be viable to record direct to an mpeg format? ;))))

    What is it that you are recording? i'm curious.
     
    SjT, Feb 23, 2004
    #31
  12. Thur

    Jerry. Guest

    If you are such a 'big wig' in the broadcast / television world why not come
    off the fence and just tell us what you do, put your cards on the table.....
     
    Jerry., Feb 23, 2004
    #32
  13. Of course. I'd just buy a DVD recorder. :) Thinking of doing so
    anyway but it's not easy to edit.
    I'm subject to NDAs but I've dropped some pretty big clues
    occasionally. Through an intemediary I have done this particular job
    for eight banks, several high street stores, a couple of insurance
    companies, three phone companies, a cable TV company, two major
    players in the motor industry, a couple of book publishers, two
    government quangos, a trade union, the biggest computer maker in the
    world and the software company whose product 90% of readers will be
    using right now.

    As I've said, it's not video making in the widely understood sense,
    it's simply using video equipment to do a mundane and 'boring'
    recording job. It all starts life as DVCAM and some finishes up on VHS
    using pro grade machines. The latter are pro grade simply because the
    el-cheapo ones wear out too quickly and give no 'feed back' that they
    are working correctly. Call me old fashioned but I do like to see an
    audio meter bobbing up and down.
     
    Malcolm Knight, Feb 23, 2004
    #33
  14. Thur

    Tony Morgan Guest

    In message <c1du9l$1h8gdp$-berlin.de>, Malcolm

    Snipped...
    Bloody hell - next time I go in I'll wave (watch out for me).

    More years ago than I care to remember I did some work for Philips
    Business Systems at Cambridge who developed and sold the very first
    traffic CCTV systems. I wasn't actually on that particular project but
    was in the same development team.

    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 24, 2004
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  15. Thur

    SjT Guest

    I said i'm a humble hobbyist, can you not read?!

    It seems that you get far top caught up on these issues Jerry, in
    future i suggest you don't make so many wild claims and regurgitate
    something you read on the first webpage you find on google.
     
    SjT, Feb 24, 2004
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  16. Thur

    SjT Guest

    I am not concerned with those formats, i'm discussing miniDV and it's
    suitability to be broadcast, to which you seem to now be agreeing with
    me slightly.
     
    SjT, Feb 24, 2004
    #36
  17. Thur

    Tony Morgan Guest

    Since Jerry is in my kill-file, I only see his out-of-context rantings
    when someone responds who hasn't recognised him for what he is and
    kill-filed him.

    He simply (and continually) makes smoke with his self-styled "expert"
    knowledge (that clearly, as you suggest, comes only from Google - and
    not from any knowledge or experience). He generates smoke to try to hide
    the fact that though he's learned to use a search engine, he has
    difficulty in understanding what the "rec" means in
    uk.rec.video.digital.

    I'm at a loss to understand what DVCPro, DVCam, Digibeta and Digital S
    have to do with recreational digital video - but then Jerry thinks that
    bandying about these professional formats gives himself some sort of
    credibility. Truth is he only does so to massage his ego - believing
    that he's impressing people.

    You can tell the sort of guy Jerry is when he has to periodically change
    his nick/address to get his posts through the newsreaders of those
    who've had the good sense to kill-file him.

    No doubt this post will spur Jerry (again) into responding to every post
    I make with foot-stamping outbursts of vitriolic abuse. The sad thing is
    that he's too stupid to know that I won't even see them. And he's even
    more stupid in thinking that he'll improve his credibility by doing so -
    but then I suppose it might do something for his ego.

    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 24, 2004
    #37
  18. Thur

    Jerry. Guest

    May I suggest you do in fact read the first web page you come to, you might
    just learn something - especially is it's written by broadcasters /
    programme makes for broadcasters / programme makes.
     
    Jerry., Feb 24, 2004
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  19. Thur

    Jerry. Guest

    What, as someone who does know what the hell he is talking about, unlike you
    Mr Morgan.
     
    Jerry., Feb 24, 2004
    #39
  20. Thur

    Jerry. Guest

    But you are trying to argue about something you know **** all about, and
    refuse to even try and understand. Until you do understand how the above
    types of digital video differ from each other you simply can't argue that
    miniDV is a broadcast format. - and if you did understand you would not be
    trying to say that miniDV is a broadcast format.

    As I said, you are as thick as a 12 lane freeway is wide and you seem to
    love to tell the world about it.
     
    Jerry., Feb 24, 2004
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