buying an obsolete model?

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Beemer, Apr 11, 2006.

  1. Beemer

    Beemer Guest

    Apart from ebay is there anywhere I can look to buy a new but obsolete
    digital camcorder? I'm thinking that I could save money this way and
    presumably it won't have the risk that as a used unit it might have been
    mistreated.

    Looking for something like a full spec Sony Digital-8

    Beemer
     
    Beemer, Apr 11, 2006
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    Rob Hemmings Guest

    First place I'd try would be local Jessops etc - if they have
    any old stock, they may be all to happy to get rid of it cheaply..
    A Google (UK) for "camcorder clearance" just brought up
    some interesting results, too..
    HTH
     
    Rob Hemmings, Apr 11, 2006
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    If you don't mind me asking the question, why Digi8 rather than MiniDV ?

    You'll periodically find little-used MiniDV camcorders for sale on Ebay.

    I'd suggest you periodically search for the following (I've also given a
    guide price you might be expected to pay for one "little used) [1]).

    Sony DCR-TRV30E (£150-£200)
    Sony DCR-TRV60E (£250-£300)
    Sony DCR-TRV80E (£300-£350)
    Sony DCR-HC85E £300-£350)

    All the above are camcorders that I'd personally recommend (friends have
    them). I've been using a TRV30E for about four years now.

    I bought a virtually unused (used only once) Sony DCR TRV80 not that
    long ago on Ebay for £300. I've seen several TRV30s on Ebay for under
    £150.

    [1] Make sure you don't get carried away with the Ebay
    bidding - remember if you don't get what you want
    for the price(s) above, then another is sure to come
    up at auction soon.

    Ensure that the Sony's you bid on are suffixed 'E' - which means that
    they are PAL and not NTSC.

    I might mention that it's worth while getting a Confirmed Paypal account
    - since then you're protected with a "money-back" facility - though it
    will take four weeks or more to your money back if you don't get the
    goods or if they are defective.

    I've just had a quick look and I see that there's a Sony DCR-TRV85E
    currently at £205 with 6 hours to go !
     
    Tony Morgan, Apr 11, 2006
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  4. Beemer

    Tony Morgan Guest

    In message <>, Tony Morgan

    Snipped...

    I put a "Watch" on, and the bidding is up to £310 with 1h 20m to go. I
    suspect that the current top bidder, 'andymac038' has put a £350 max
    limit for his auto-bid. If you were to go in at £351 near the time, if
    the bidding hasn't gone higher by then, you might well get it.
     
    Tony Morgan, Apr 11, 2006
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  5. Beemer

    Beemer Guest

    | | > Apart from ebay is there anywhere I can look to buy a new but obsolete
    | > digital camcorder? I'm thinking that I could save money this way and
    | > presumably it won't have the risk that as a used unit it might have been
    | > mistreated.
    | >
    | > Looking for something like a full spec Sony Digital-8
    |
    | First place I'd try would be local Jessops etc - if they have
    | any old stock, they may be all to happy to get rid of it cheaply..
    | A Google (UK) for "camcorder clearance" just brought up
    | some interesting results, too..
    | HTH
    | --
    | Rob
    |
    |
    Rob, I'll check it out, thanks, Beemer
     
    Beemer, Apr 11, 2006
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    Beemer Guest

    | In message <SOK_f.51337$>, Beemer
    | >Apart from ebay is there anywhere I can look to buy a new but obsolete
    | >digital camcorder? I'm thinking that I could save money this way and
    | >presumably it won't have the risk that as a used unit it might have been
    | >mistreated.
    | >
    | >Looking for something like a full spec Sony Digital-8
    | >
    | If you don't mind me asking the question, why Digi8 rather than MiniDV ?
    |
    | You'll periodically find little-used MiniDV camcorders for sale on Ebay.
    |
    | I'd suggest you periodically search for the following (I've also given a
    | guide price you might be expected to pay for one "little used) [1]).
    |
    | Sony DCR-TRV30E (£150-£200)
    | Sony DCR-TRV60E (£250-£300)
    | Sony DCR-TRV80E (£300-£350)
    | Sony DCR-HC85E £300-£350)
    |
    | All the above are camcorders that I'd personally recommend (friends have
    | them). I've been using a TRV30E for about four years now.
    |
    | I bought a virtually unused (used only once) Sony DCR TRV80 not that
    | long ago on Ebay for £300. I've seen several TRV30s on Ebay for under
    | £150.
    |
    | [1] Make sure you don't get carried away with the Ebay
    | bidding - remember if you don't get what you want
    | for the price(s) above, then another is sure to come
    | up at auction soon.
    |
    | Ensure that the Sony's you bid on are suffixed 'E' - which means that
    | they are PAL and not NTSC.
    |
    | I might mention that it's worth while getting a Confirmed Paypal account
    | - since then you're protected with a "money-back" facility - though it
    | will take four weeks or more to your money back if you don't get the
    | goods or if they are defective.
    |
    | I've just had a quick look and I see that there's a Sony DCR-TRV85E
    | currently at £205 with 6 hours to go !
    | Tony Morgan
    | http://www.camcord.info

    Tony,

    Your response was appreciated. I am a medium format stills amateur so not
    too conversant with digital video models. My son-in-law has a Sony TRV350E
    and I have read that Digital-8 has theoretically superior sound to miniDV
    (bitwise) and, as I recall, can have longer recording time than miniDV. Of
    course I am aware than Sony will not further develop the media but unless
    the tapes became unavailable this is not relevant for me.

    Main issues:

    - IEE1394 interface to my computer for DV in/out
    - High quality optics
    - Uses tape not a dvd
    - solid construction (I have an aversion to lightweight plastic
    products....its my age)

    Beemer
     
    Beemer, Apr 11, 2006
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    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    The ONLY reason for going down a redundant format route, such as
    Digital-8 is for compatibility with the old analogue (Hi)8mm format,
    if you don't need to play the older analogue format then there is
    little or no point in buying into the Digital-8 format.
     
    :::Jerry::::, Apr 11, 2006
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  8. Beemer

    Tony Morgan Guest

    In message <>, Tony Morgan
    The (new) Sony HC85E that I mentioned went for only £320 - IMHO a real
    bargain.
     
    Tony Morgan, Apr 12, 2006
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