calling all photographers...

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by samfind.com, Jul 27, 2006.

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    samfind.com Guest

    Hi there...

    Our website, http://samfind.com, which is set to launch in September
    will be displaying high quality images that our users submit on its
    homepage.

    we are looking for images ... but not any ordinary images...

    we are looking for images that have a white background. sorta like the
    image in our first post of July 14th on our blog at
    http://samfind.blogspot.com. this is so that we can add color to the
    homepage without getting in the way of the reason for people to be
    there...other than to see your images!

    send us anything you think fits this criteria and we will select the
    ones we like and put them on our homepage. also, please add your full
    name and your web address so that we can give you credit and a link
    back for the image.

    while you are there, feel free to sign up to be notified of our launch
    at http://samfind.com!

    sincerely,

    sam
     
    samfind.com, Jul 27, 2006
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    You neglected to mention how much you're paying.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Jul 27, 2006
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    samfind.com Guest

    Jeremy,

    Our goal is to give exposure to photographers while providing and
    appealing image on your homepage. The compensation that the
    photographer will get is exposure on our homepage and a link back.
    These days images are not that expensive to purchase and with the
    measly 20-40 cents on the dollar that photographers earn on their
    photgraphs at places like istockphoto, having your image on the
    homepage of a website seems like pretty good compensation.

    Sincerely,

    Sam
     
    samfind.com, Jul 27, 2006
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    Devaluing photography even further. Thanks...
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Jul 27, 2006
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  5. Huh? R You nuts? I earn my living doing this stuff. Bah haaaa haa 20 to
    40 cents.
     
    Little Green Eyed Dragon, Jul 27, 2006
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    The problem is, lots of people *do* take 20-40 cents, leading to people
    like the original poster thinking that's the value of a photograph. That
    hurts all of us.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Jul 28, 2006
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    Helen Guest

    You overlook the fact that nobody has ever heard of your site, so how long
    is it going to take before the public start seeing the photographs, and by
    extension, the photographers who decide who post with you? Though I
    disagree strongly with the so-called microstock sites, such as istockphoto
    which you mentioned, at least the public, or anyway the designers, know
    about them, and buy stock from them; the disagreeable part is the insulting
    few cents the photographer gets per sale. They devalue the photographs
    placed with them and the photographers who took them, and dilute the work of
    proper and responsible agencies such as Alamy, who charge a full and correct
    value per sale (and, incidentally, pay 65% or 75% of each sale to the
    photographer, depending on the plan, not the 20 to 40 you said). Alamy pays
    my mortgage.

    As a matter of interest, I've just spoken to an amateur photographer friend
    of mine who tried some of his work with a new microstock agency he liked the
    look of. He tells me this agency has now been around for about 5 months and
    so far has sold 55 pictures. Big deal. Furthermore, in the last two months
    they've only sold 5. Yes, five. The point is, it's going to take a while to
    get known, and unless you have the marketing skills and the funds to push it
    like hell you simply won't see much happen, and nor will your photographers.
    It's cutthroat out there.
     
    Helen, Jul 28, 2006
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    ....and if I want the "exposure" of being on a website no one's ever heard
    of, I can make my own. :)

    Sam: come on back when you're the next Google, and we'll talk about featuring
    photographers on your home page in exchange for exposure.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Jul 28, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    For this, or any other URL if people are curious about how much
    "exposure" it gets,
    got to www.alexa.com
    Put in the URL and check "Traffic Details."
     
    RichA, Jul 28, 2006
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  10. Like all business, competition....photographers may as well forget being
    "Known" Ansel Adams was known in the conscience of the average Joe...
    unlikely it will happen again - and its better just to earn a living.
    AA was relatively penniless until about the last couple of years of his
    80+ year life.

    Approximately 5 % of the photographers out there actually can make a
    living beyond 25,000 dollars per year. Last year I was lucky enough to
    finally after 20 years of photo to be one of them.
     
    Little Green Eyed Dragon, Jul 28, 2006
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  11. Unfortunately getting the whole photo community to cooperate
    is like banging your head against a rock.
     
    Little Green Eyed Dragon, Jul 28, 2006
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    silent lamb Guest

    How desperate must people be to sell their photos for less than the
    cost of taking them?

    I can't quite figure out the enthusiasm some people have for selling
    their photos in a market place where too many are trying to sell too
    much to, too few buyers. You'd think they'd just give up and fill
    albums with happy snaps, wouldn't you?

    I'm a working Photographer. I am constantly amazed at how many people
    buy a digital camera and then set out to undercut the prices of
    established Professionals in the false belief they will somehow manage
    to make a profit where the pile of wannabes in the past never did.

    There are plenty of people looking for Photographers with $10,000 worth
    of gear to shoot assignments for no pay in the (usually false) belief
    they will "sell" enough from a web site or magazine to make it
    worthwhile... And it never does.

    Here is a new dreamer. Expecting to lure more wannabes into providing
    him with fodder he can use to attract traffic to his site while selling
    'click thru' advertising he isn't going to share the proceeds from,
    with those he dupes.

    To then try and justify his scam by citing other rogues is about as bad
    as it gets.
     
    silent lamb, Jul 28, 2006
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    silent lamb Guest

    Either my host is forging traffic statistics or Alexia is a sham.
    It can't even find 3 of my web sites. One is a 500 hit a day site!

    Their tool bar doesn't work in IE 7 either. Not looking good for this
    one, Rich!
     
    silent lamb, Jul 28, 2006
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  14. Works fine for me and mozilla.
    My site Traffic Rank for clarkvision.com: 506,159
    whatever that means.
    Roger
     
    Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark), Jul 28, 2006
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    -hh Guest

    He's also overlooking the fact that anyone who hears about his website
    from posts like this already have Internet access, so they can go set
    up their own "free to distribute" images, invariably at places that
    already have & get more eyeball traffic.


    -hh
     
    -hh, Jul 28, 2006
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    silent lamb Guest

    It means you are half way up the statistics ladder, Rodger.
    100,000th is where they start ranking you. If I read their blurb
    properly, basically there are 50,000 similar sites to yours which get
    hit first when looking for the keywords you are using on yours.

    Comforting, isn't it?
     
    silent lamb, Jul 28, 2006
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    samfind.com Guest

    Jeremy,

    We are working very hard at building and promoting our website so that
    the value of your photograph being on our homepage is worth the cost of
    placing your photograph there. Frankly, many people do not value place
    a very high value on their photographs and are willing to sell them
    very inexpensively. That may not be you. But that is the vast
    majority of amatuer photographers.

    You may be a professional photographer and place a higher value on the
    amount of money you will make from the licensing of the image than the
    potential exposure that you may get on the samfind homepage.

    Sam
     
    samfind.com, Jul 28, 2006
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    samfind.com Guest

    Ther are few photographers who earn very much for their photographs
    because most photgraphers are amateurs. Congratulations for having
    made it among the elite professional photographers who can actually
    live off of the photography unlike most who enjoy photography and now
    have the ability to monetize it thanks to the internet.

    Sam
     
    samfind.com, Jul 28, 2006
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    samfind.com Guest

    Helen,

    You are correct. Our website is set to launch in September. Not many
    have heard of our site yet and it will likely be a niche website. We
    hope that you take a moment to look at it in the future and judge it
    for yourself.

    Sam
     
    samfind.com, Jul 28, 2006
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    samfind.com Guest

    Rich,

    We have not launched out website yet. Therefore, we do not have any
    traffic statistics. Visit http://samfind.com and you see the extent of
    the public website.

    Sam
     
    samfind.com, Jul 28, 2006
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