Calumet files Chapter 7

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    Guest, Mar 13, 2014
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  2. RE: The negative comments about the company following the linked
    article. Sad for everyone involved, but it's not uncommon. Publicly
    talking about a possible closing guarantees you'll go over the edge; I
    can only assume the owners (perhaps foolishly, but optimistically) held
    out hope to the end.

    If anyone remembers the Camera Craft chain in NY/NJ in the middle 70's,
    that's what happened there. I was a store manager at the time, and
    wound up being chased out the door by the sheriff, who chained it shut.

    A couple of the managers who got wind of it the day before, basically
    brought vans and stole the stores empty. Far as I know, it was never
    even noticed.
     
    Scott Schuckert, Mar 13, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    there will always be negative comments when a store closes and people
    lose their jobs. however, anyone that didn't see it coming is blind.
     
    Guest, Mar 13, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    You hit the nail on the head. There is no way a company in poor
    financial condition would let the public know, unless it was forced to.
    Suppliers would stop extending terms; the good employees would look
    elsewhere; and customer attitudes would change. I was litigating a case
    in Bankruptcy Court and ran into the owner of a local restaurant. The
    man was grateful when I told him that I never saw him. Later in the week
    we had a fight. I told him that I would never eat in his place again if
    he didn't let me pay for my food. I did let him buy me a drink.
     
    PeterN, Mar 13, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    Did you make a published prediction?
     
    PeterN, Mar 13, 2014
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    Ian Guest

    The petapixal page includes this:
    "After 75 years of business it is with a heavy heart that we announce our
    immediate closing in the United States (our European stores will continue)".

    Here in Nottingham the Calumat store closed in 2010.
    See
    http://calumet-photography.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/ongoing-closing-down-sale-at-nottingham.html

    Regards,
    Ian in Nottingham.



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    Ian, Mar 13, 2014
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    PAS Guest

    The classic camera store is a thing of the past for most folks. We have two
    within a short walking distance of each other that we can go to: Cameta
    Camera and Berger Bros. I do like Cameta a lot and bought my first camera
    from them about 30 years ago. I'm not a fan of Berger Bros. Fortunately,
    Cameta is doing so well as an eBay business that they'll be around for quite
    a long time.
     
    PAS, Mar 14, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    One of our last local bricks & mortar camera stores in San Luis Obispo,
    Jim's Campus Cameras had to close its doors last March.
    < http://jimscamera.com >
     
    Savageduck, Mar 14, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    exactly why it's no surprise calumet closed. those that claim to be
    surprised are blind to what's happening. certainly the workers there
    must have noticed there weren't very many customers anymore.

    it's rare that a camera store can offer services to where they can stay
    in business.
    they might close their store and be just an online seller.
     
    Guest, Mar 14, 2014
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    PAS Guest

    They certainly can. If the store closed down, Bill Cameta will still do
    very, very well with his eBay business. He does a lot of business in used
    gear also. If it ever closes, I'll miss the place.
     
    PAS, Mar 14, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    They certainly can. If the store closed down, Bill Cameta will still do
    very, very well with his eBay business. He does a lot of business in used
    gear also. If it ever closes, I'll miss the place.[/QUOTE]

    that's the point. many stores are no longer needed when it's easier to
    get products online.

    for a store to survive, it needs to offer something you *can't* get
    online.
     
    Guest, Mar 14, 2014
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    PAS Guest

    that's the point. many stores are no longer needed when it's easier to
    get products online.

    for a store to survive, it needs to offer something you *can't* get
    online.[/QUOTE]

    That would be personalized expert service and the ability to handle the
    goods before buying. That's something the brick & mortar store still
    offers.
     
    PAS, Mar 14, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    That would be personalized expert service and the ability to handle the
    goods before buying. That's something the brick & mortar store still
    offers.[/QUOTE]

    but not necessarily at a competitive price. stores have an overhead
    that an online seller does not have and almost always have higher
    prices, sometimes by quite a bit.

    what ends up happening is people might go to a store to check out the
    camera or other product and then go order it online for much less. the
    store not only doesn't get the sale but they spent time helping someone
    buy elsewhere.
     
    Guest, Mar 14, 2014
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  14. That's one issue that brick & mortar shops have faced for sometime now.
    People try out the product(s) in store tie up the sales person's time,
    then they go home and (1970-90's) mail order, or now, buy online.
     
    Usenet Account, Mar 14, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    the difference is that people can now get all of the information they
    need without going to a store, including watching online videos of
    someone using the camera, examine sample images taken in a variety of
    situations and much more. plus, many online sellers have generous
    return policies.

    a store needs to offer something to justify their existence, or they go
    away, as many of them have, with more to follow.

    for instance, a camera store could offer free loaner equipment, or
    maybe discounted lens rentals or something that a customer might
    actually want to utilize at some point. they used to make their money
    on film processing but that's all but gone now.

    otherwise, it's a far more pleasant experience to buy online and have
    it show up in a couple of days, or even the next day if needed, without
    any idiot salespeople trying to upsell you overpriced filters or other
    garbage.
     
    Guest, Mar 14, 2014
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Yes, and we know that no online retailer has *ever* tried to upsell
    over-priced filters.

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/42nd-street-photo-new-york-4
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 14, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    not reputable ones.

    there are sleazy stores too. big fucking deal.
     
    Guest, Mar 14, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    Gotta put in another plug for Jimmy Koh. I deal with him as much as
    possible, and he has always been friendly, helpful, and honorable.
     
    PeterN, Mar 14, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    they get a lot of local support, and they match Internet prices.
     
    PeterN, Mar 14, 2014
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