Calumet files Chapter 7

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Usenet Account, Mar 13, 2014.

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    Eric Stevens Guest

    I am merely giving you advice as to the best way to support your
    argument, by falsifying the opposing argument. Whether or not you
    choose to do it is up to you. Of course you may not be able to falsify
    Tony's argument.
     
    Eric Stevens, Apr 5, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Can you give a reference to your source of this definition?

    In any case, we should get back to the beginning of your argument in
    Message-ID: <>

    "Ignoring something is an active action, not stating something
    isn't. There are millions of things you didn't state in your post
    here, but you're not actually ignoring all of them; like floods in
    malaysia, the price of IKEA furniture and the mating calls of sea
    lions. You didn't state any of those items, and according to you,
    that means you ignored them. Well, according to the English
    language, you didn't.

    Ignoring something is deliberate, and one cannot prove the
    existence of a deliberate action (ignoring something) solely by
    noting the absence of another deliberate action (i.e. stating
    something)."

    Taking that apart:

    1. "Ignoring something is an active action, not stating something
    isn't."

    It depends upon whether or not the speaker knows of the
    'something'. If the speaker knows, not stating the something is
    a result of a deliberate decision by the speaker - to not state.

    2. "There are millions of things you didn't state in your post
    here, but you're not actually ignoring all of them; like floods
    in malaysia, the price of IKEA furniture and the mating calls
    of sea lions."

    There is the test of relevance. Even if the speaker knew all
    these things, I would expect the speaker to ignore them on the
    grounds that they were not relevant to the subject under
    discussion.

    3. " You didn't state any of those items, and according to you, that
    means you ignored them. Well, according to the English
    language, you didn't."

    Of course he did. They are utterly irrelevant to the subject
    under discussion, which (in case you had forgotten) was "What
    he [nospam] ignores is that in *all* purchases online, there is
    no sales help available." I would like to know what you think
    Tony did with these things if he did not ignore them.

    Are you aware that the significant difference between Newtonian
    mechanics and Einsteinian mechanics is that Newtonian mechanics
    ignores relativistic effects?
     
    Eric Stevens, Apr 5, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    not many of them do that.
    a completely meaningless anecdote.
     
    Guest, Apr 5, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    apple is subject to a shitload of competition.
     
    Guest, Apr 5, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    stuff.

    How do you like your D300?
    It should have a different heft to your D60, and the burst-CL/CH mode
    can be useful for action shots. Also for those action shots using CL/CH
    it is worth setting the focus mode from "S" to "C".
    I have my D300S set up with the Custom Shooting & Setting banks set for
    "Standard/normal", "Landscape", "Action", & "B&W". For B&W I shoot
    RAW+JPEG with the RAW going to the CF card and the JPEGs going to the
    SDHC.


    For "Action" my shooting bank is set as follows:
    Primary Slot: CF
    Secondary slot function: overflow
    RAW
    WB: Auto
    Set picture control: NL
    High ISO NR: Normal
    Auto ISO: On; Max 1600, Min shutter speed 1/320. This is one I tweak
    depending on event and lighting situation, and will sometimes turn off.
    It works for me for motor sports where there are lighting variations
    due to movement in and out of shadows.

    My Actions setting bank:
    a1: Release & Focus
    a2: Focus
    a3: 51 point(3D-tracking)
    a8: AF51
    c1: off
    d5: Whatever you are comfortable with I have the MB-D10 so I use &
     
    Savageduck, Apr 5, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    See https://www.adobeexchange.com/producer
    I think the process begins here http://www.adobe.com/misc/terms.html
    and the information you are after may be downstream of section 9.5
     
    Eric Stevens, Apr 5, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    ....er that should have been "...I have the MB-D10 so I use 7".
     
    Savageduck, Apr 5, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Hmm. The same plugins will often run with Paint Shop Pro, Gimp, Irfan
    VIew etc. Does that make them Paint Shop Pro, Gimp, Irfan View
    plugins?

    You should see
    http://www.thepluginsite.com/knowhow/tutorials/introduction/introduction.htm
    which will give you some idea of why, when and how Adobe may restrict
    the use of Photoshop as part of the name of plugins.
     
    Eric Stevens, Apr 5, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    There is a mistake: your claim that you are "fully aware that I make
    such mistakes". :)
     
    Eric Stevens, Apr 5, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    You may have convinced yourself but you didn't convince me.
     
    Eric Stevens, Apr 5, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    .... shown, only to yourself.
    He is correct.
    And correct.
    Anyone familiar with English can tell that you are not a native
    English speaker. Not in a big way: your English is generally very
    good. What gives you away are the subtleties of word usage.
     
    Eric Stevens, Apr 5, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    it doesn't.

    all you need to do is download the photoshop sdk, write whatever
    plug-in you want and offer it for sale. adobe doesn't even have to know
    about it.
     
    Guest, Apr 5, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    no, because those apps are pretending to be photoshop to run the
    photoshop plug-ins (and usually do an incomplete job of it too).
    adobe doesn't care if you sell something called a photoshop plug-in or
    a plug-in for photoshop. anyone with a clue can see that's two ways to
    say the same thing.
     
    Guest, Apr 5, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Read above:

    "So there is no real competition between Apple sales outlets, at
    least not to the extent that there is between independent camera
    stores."
     
    Eric Stevens, Apr 5, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    there is.
     
    Guest, Apr 5, 2014
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    It's fine. The continuous mode shoots more fps than the D60, and that
    does help. Still, I don't go crazy with multiple shots. I average
    maybe three frames for a slide into home. Old film habits of
    conserving frames die hard.

    For sports shots, I use center weight, Single Area, and CL. And, RAW
    of course, and Manual (usually) and sometimes Speed but not that much.
    I haven't set up any Custom Shooting settings.

    My limitation is still glass. I can't get wide open enough to blur
    those backgrounds.

    For the baseball shots, I'm restricted to shooting "through the
    diamonds"...through the diamond-shaped openings in the chain link
    fence. That makes it hard to track action because part of that fence
    ends up graying out an area.

    While the fence is a problem in traversing the field, I rely mostly on
    anticipating where the action will be. If there's a runner on third,
    I'm framing and focusing on home plate before the pitch. I'm always
    ready for one base ahead of where the runner is. What I miss is
    infield action like a pop-up fly. I can't get the camera through the
    diamond quickly enough.

    One grandson is the catcher, so he's the subject of a lot of shots:
    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Babe-Ruth-Baseball-2014/i-kg5bcvs/0/XL/2014-03-13-136-XL.jpg
    (That wasn't my grandson in the catcher shot above. That was one of
    our players sliding into home)

    The other grandson is the first baseman, and you can see him in the
    distance. Haven't got a good shot of him at first this year, but
    here's one of him at bat trying to avoid a bad pitch:
    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Babe-Ruth-Baseball-2014/i-bv6bXLN/0/XL/2014-03-25-33-XL.jpg


    With a batter, I like to get the ball in the frame and press the
    shutter when the batter's forward shoulder drops or he starts to lean
    forward. That tells me that one of my three shots has a good chance
    of getting the ball in the frame. I don't even look at the pitcher or
    try to see the ball.

    Since the light changes quickly with late afternoon games, the ability
    to change the ISO with a top button is an advantage. The D300
    produces less grain at higher ISO than the D60, but neither is a good
    high ISO camera.

    I do not care for the multi-focus point settings, and stay with single
    area. When I tried the multi-focus point settings, I found too many
    images where the wrong part of the player was in focus and was trying
    to salvage bad shots. With single area, it's either sharp or not
    sharp.

    The baseball and barrel racing shots were all processed solely in LR.
    I shoot so many images in this type of situation that LR works OK. I
    try for images of all the team members, not just my two. But, I
    think I do a better job of post in CS. The barrel race arena was
    covered, so the lighting was very poor. No flash was used, of course.

    I changed the Subject to take us out of the silliness.
     
    Tony Cooper, Apr 5, 2014
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    I don't know why you keep repeating this point. No one is contesting
    it. We all know that anyone can write a plug-in for Photoshop or LR
    and make that plug-in available to anyone without Adobe's knowledge or
    consent.

    What is at question is only what you should call it.
     
    Tony Cooper, Apr 5, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    do try to keep up.
     
    Guest, Apr 5, 2014
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Ironic. You ignored the correlation between the various protocols and
    requirements that have been substantiated.
     
    Tony Cooper, Apr 5, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    If I were you I would invest in an AF-S VR Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G.
    At $586.95 it is a sharp, and good performing value, one of the best
    values to be found in Nikkor lower priced lenses. It will give a tad
    more reach than your 55-200mm and is sharper. All of my air show
    in-flight shots such as this < https://db.tt/B1Q9fEoI > and most of my
    motor sport shots are shot with this 70-300mm
    <
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/449088-USA/Nikon_2161_AF_S_VR_Zoom_Nikkor.html
    For car shows i use the Nikkor 18-200mm, the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8, and
    the 35mm/

    If you are looking for a budget minded faster lens just go with having
    the Nikkor AF-S f/1.8G DX at $196.95 in your pocket. It is good enough,
    compact fast, and sharp. it makes a useful *normal* APS-C lens for
    *Street* work. mine is in my bag at all times. It will give all the
    bokeh you desire.
    <
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/606792-GREY/Nikon_2183_AF_S_Nikkor_35mm_f_1_8G.html>

    For
    For action shooting where there are rapid light/shade changes auto ISO
    can be useful, I cap mine out at ISO 1600, (you know my sentiments
    regarding noise) most are captured at ISO 200-400.
    I have found the 3D-tracking useful at air shows and motor sport events.
    Finally!
     
    Savageduck, Apr 5, 2014
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