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IMAGINE YOU SPAMMING THIS NEWSGROUP!

 

Forward original message with full headers to:

(original poster's newsgroup account)
(original poster's ISP)
(original poster's web host for camcordersonsale.com)

 

And imagine YOU quoting all 400 lines of his spam!

 

Good luck with that. None of those providers gives a rip.

PLEASE DON'T REGURGITATE THE ENTIRE SPAM
MESSAGE BACK TO THE NEWSGROUP! IT MAKES
YOU JUST AS BAD AS THEM!!

 

Didn't know you were intimately aware of the policies of Verizon and
theplanet.com.

Reporting beats just whining about it.


jaybee

 

PLEASE DON'T CROSS-POST YOUR REPLY TO 5 NEWSGROUPS, IT MAKES YOU A MORON!!

 

You must be new to the internet. Those big companys long
ago abdicated any responsibility for bad behavior of their
customers. Every once in a while one of them surprises us
and does the right thing, but don't hold your breath.

If it makes you feel better.

 

Again: have you intimate knowledge of those two companies' policies in
particular or are you generalizing?

It makes everyone feel better by cutting down on the whining.


jaybee

 

Next time you want to reply to an obvious spam / scam - please delete
all the links.

 

| @fe03.news.easynews.com:
|
|> IMAGINE YOU SPAMMING THIS NEWSGROUP!
|
| Forward original message with full headers to:
|
| (original poster's newsgroup account)
| (original poster's ISP)
| (original poster's web host for camcordersonsale.com)

You think that will help? All THREE of these have a long and steady
track record of not giving a damn and just ignoring complaints, though
Verizon is know to occaisionally suspend accounts of customers that
have been passing spam through for a while.

The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most
is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the very few smart people that
have been using it because they like web interfaces will figure out
another place to post from.

Lift the filter every couple months and see if the spamming has stopped.

 

| @mid.individual.net:
|
|> "Jacques E. Bouchard" wrote ...
|>> "Richard Crowley" wrote :
|>>> Good luck with that. None of those providers gives a rip.
|>>
|>> Didn't know you were intimately aware of the policies of
|>> Verizon and theplanet.com.
|>
|> You must be new to the internet. Those big companys long
|> ago abdicated any responsibility for bad behavior of their
|> customers.
|
| Again: have you intimate knowledge of those two companies' policies in
| particular or are you generalizing?

To the extent that their policies match their behaviour, then we can see
what those policies are by watching their behaviour. But if the behaviour
differs from the policies, then the policies really don't matter. What
counts is how much they _do_ about spam. And the problem is, they _don't_
do much about spam _from_ their network at all. Complaints have been sent
to these companies for years. How much they have been doing about it was
low to begin with and has dropped to virtually nil.


|>> Reporting beats just whining about it.
|>
|> If it makes you feel better.
|
| It makes everyone feel better by cutting down on the whining.

What is so ironic is when they send you a notice back when you do send in a
complaint, and it says "due to the volume ..." followed be some description
of how they won't follow-up or some such thing. If they truly have such a
high volume, they clearly are not doing what they need to be doing. Why
would a company lie if the lie itself actually makes them look bad? It's
kinda like the company is whining "please stop flooding us with complaints
that just end up making us disconnect paying customers".

 

We all (even you) have intimate and first-hand current knowledge
of these companies *actual behavior*.

So what response (if any?) did you receive from your complaint(s)?

 

The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously
spam. You overestimate the incentive for Google Groups users to find a news
server.


jaybee

 

"Jacques E. Bouchard" wrote ...

And conversely GoogleGroups users overestimate our incentive
to respond to (or even read) their postings.

 

Actually it looks like GoogleGroups has poisoned the well
enough that there may be so few NG readers that it becomes
pointless to spam them anymore. By blocking them we may
hasten the day the kooks and spammers abandon
GoogleGroups and their NG spamming efforts. Till then, I
find that the Delete key still works.

Luck;
Ken

 

Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor. Since Google does
nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses
just google groups.

If you filter all google group postings, you can filter some 99.9% of
all the spam on newsgroups.

 

Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.

And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.

Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday, it makes absolutely
no sense to lose a great swag of the remaining non spam posters.

 

"Rod Speed" wrote ...

I wouldn't say "big favor". Certainly the Google Groups
Archives is an enormously important cyber-resource.

However Google's indiscriminate and irresponsible opening
Usenet to the unwashed masses via their web interface seems
mostly negative IMHO.

I know that sounds elitist, but Usenet depends on human common
sense to keep it useful and managable, and that is lost when a big
corporate player like Google (or AOL, etc.) decides to dabble.

Then they can take their chances that people will read their
messages from SpamCentral. No shoes, no shirt, no service.

Assuming you are using a newsreader that will do that.
Alas, there is no practical way to do that with OE. :-(

That's that chance they take. Good luck to them.
I have little sympathy for them.

I've been using Usenet since before it's "heyday" and it seems
just as useful and vigorous as ever. Perhaps it depends on
which NGs you're reading.

Again, perhaps it depends on which NGs you're talking
about. But there are so few legitimate posts from Google
that I wouldn't miss them if they diappeared completely.

 

There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
postings..