Camcorders with "Pass-Through"

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Bill, Mar 14, 2007.

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    Bill Guest

    I have been pointed to this newsgroup with this question. Please have
    pity on a beginner.

    What I'm trying to do is to take in video and audio from a VHS video and
    record it straight into a PC. If that works, I have another project for
    which I'd like to take in the video via the s-video input on the
    camcorder and audio via the composite input and interleave these within
    the camcorder then send to the PC. The VHS videos are mainly PAL or
    NTSC, I'm not certain what format the s-video stuff will be in (are
    there lots?) and I haven't yet seen the hardware that will send the
    video through the s-video connector. So for the moment I'm just trying
    to do the standard thing of getting old VHS video tapes into a PC as
    standard mpeg or avi files

    I'm advised that a mini-DV camcorder is the cheapest way of getting a
    hardware interface into the PC, so I'm trying to find which camcorders
    will take analogue video and audio in and squirt them out via firewire
    to be turned into avi or mpeg files on a PC.

    Canons in general seem to have composite, but not s-vid inputs.

    After a debacle with a JVC thing that had misleading info in the copy of
    the instruction manual on their website (the refund is pending but I've
    lost a lot on the postage) and having wasted days looking up this sort
    of info, I wonder if someone here could suggest a model number. There is
    some urgency as I have 2 second chance offers pending that didn't reach
    their reserve on ebay. These are JVC GR-DX77 and DX100.

    I wouldn't be asking here, but JVC support hung up on me today, and say
    it will take some days to respond to the email I've sent.

    The people who sent me here were suggesting that I just use a USB2 type
    of device to take in the analogue video. I've got one of these, but the
    audio is sent separately to the laptop soundcard and I think that is on
    a different clock from the usb, causing the sync to drift slightly. The
    picture quality is not brilliant either.

    I've tried recording to my cheap DVD/HD recorder, but I think that puts
    something weird into the files (maybe some digital rights nonsense and
    nothing I'm working with is protected in any way).
    Bill, Mar 14, 2007
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    Mark Guest


    My old canon MV500i has S-video in/out.
    Mark, Mar 16, 2007
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    Mark Guest

    Mark, Mar 16, 2007
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    Mark Guest

    BTW, you probably know this, but if your VHS video source is copyright
    protected many consumer devices will detect the presence of the
    Macrovision and prevent you making a pass-through copy.
    Mark, Mar 16, 2007
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    Bill Guest

    Thanks. Most of the stuff I've got should not be copyright protected
    unless the standard old video recorder it was recorded on did something
    extremely clever.

    Thanks also for the info re the Canon.
    Bill, Mar 16, 2007
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    bertieboy Guest

    I wanted to do the very same thing and I got a Canon MVX460 which has
    DV-in and DV-out. It does have pass through and I can capture from my
    Sky+ TV, a Panasonic DVD recorder player and a Hitachi VHS cassette
    player (I use Edius 4 to capture and edit).
    It uses an AV cable into the 460 and a firewire cable out from 460 to my
    laptop. Don't know about s-video though.
    bertieboy, Mar 16, 2007
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    G Hardy Guest

    Do you use the camera in "VCR" or "Camera" mode to use pass-through?
    G Hardy, Mar 16, 2007
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    Ciana Guest

    I have a Panasonic camcorder with AV in /out, a S-VHS in/out and fire wire
    in/out connectors. I use a Sony VAIO laptop with a fire wire in/out

    I did a lot of transfers of old videos (S-VHS, HI8), as well as many copies
    from home movies, TV and/or videotape. I use the S-VHS input of the Pana
    for the video (for S-VHS & Hi8) and the AV in for TV and the audio part in
    all cases. (The camcorder is in VCR mode for videos and in camera mode when
    making copy of old home movies projected on a white piece paper or on a
    waxed glass).The laptop is connected thru the fire wire to the camcorder
    (and to a DVD burner). I use Scenalzerlive for capturing; other such
    Premiere and Moviefactory have be successfullybeen tested. Reason for using
    Scenalzerlive: it has time code and optical scene detectors which permits
    to split the video for further editing with Premiere (adding title, music
    etc). For this reason the capture is in AVI format . I tried to capture in
    mpeg2 format and burned straight on a DVD disk; it worked pretty well but my
    laptop is not fast enough (850MHz) so it was not a "true" capture/burning
    (the burner start immediately but as the system cannot follow: a buffering
    occurs and after say 20 -30 min of recording the HDD was full !

    Pretty easy and working good even with old camcorder, PC and DVD burner!

    Ciana, Mar 16, 2007
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    Mark Guest

    Mark, Mar 16, 2007
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    G Hardy Guest

    G Hardy, Mar 17, 2007
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